After analyzing it for a thousand hours over more than a decade, I still can’t find a better nutrient-to-cost ratio than grass-fed ground beef.
I also think non-grass beef is fine vs normal beef, but then I have certain environmental permaculture soil maxi ethical views. So I mean, ultimately my opinion is to eat beef, and preferably from cows that are as close to nature as possible (ie they eat tall deep-rooted grass and have space and thus don’t usually need antibacterial medicine because they are healthy).
I don’t like to conflict with real scientists, but more than a decade ago I began researching nutrition and experimenting on myself. Many bitcoiners find nutrition, but I found nutrition and then found bitcoin, which is the less profitable direction.
I am not a doctor or a nutritionist. Most doctors and nutritionists are shitty at nutrition, but nonetheless I am not one of them.
I am, however, an athlete and engineer. I began to notice my performance issues with industrial carbs and seed oils, and began removing them. Huge health boost, and I felt so much better. This was after reading many studies.
I then did personal blood tests. I logged my food, pricked my finger and tested my glucose each day, pricked my finger and tested my ketones each day, for science, etc. I felt good and performed well under ketosis, subject to certain athletic details depending on the sport.
Ultimately I practiced seasonal ketosis. Seasons of normal health-conscious food. Seasons where I go more hardcore on ketosis for health.
My main view is that low carb eating is good, grass-fed ground beef is particularly good and cheap, etc. Eat while foods and minimize toxins. I am happy to debate nutritionists or whoever on this, it isn’t my expertise, but imo a pre-qualifier to such a debate is that they need to have visible abs. I have no tolerance toward the opinion of a flabby university nutritionist.
Anyway, good evening.
There should a white label beef delivery company. Like Omaha Steaks, but for bitcoin influencers to create their own brand. Bitstein’s Beef, Saifedean’s Steak, etc.
Very well said. Healthy beef with whole foods and good oils with exercise and positive thinking is a great foundation.
Proof of abs 😂
I anticipated a photo of Lyn at the end of her note …
Same experience with a similar background.
I think seeing how broken and corrupt the mainstream medicine/nutrition space is when it comes to food made it easier for me to see the same when it came to money, so bitcoin was a no brainer
I’m a physician, and I agree with your statement that most doctors are shitty at nutrition. None of my nutrition practices were learned during my formal training. And there’s so much misinformation out there that it’s hard to get to the truth about nutrition. Appreciate your post.
Agreed on the health benefit of naturally and healthily raised beef.
However, I am curious if you've compared the cost ratio to equally well raised pastured eggs.
I view eggs as one of the healthiest things you can eat, and when sourced direct from farm can be very cheap.
e.g. found a local goat farm that sells their pastured eggs for $3/dozen
well i don't have abs ... but i did use to bench 400 lbs in college while also being able to do 30 chin ups without slowing down ( 20 years ago )
my opinion ( based on interest in weight loss since i was a fat kid in kindergarten ) is that grass fed beef is a solid BASE for a diet, but you need organ meats to round it out. or at least eggs.
if your beef is not grass fed you will need wild caught fish for Omega 3.
and if you don't eat organ meats you will need Fruits for vitamin C ( such as Citrus or Kiwi ) ... or you can just use Ascorbic Acid powder like me.
other pointers: calories count, even if you're on keto / carnivore. carbs are garbage but they are not the devil. seed oils on other hand are the devil.
What is it about seeds that makes them so harmful? There must be so research around this question
a few things:
1 - seed oils are high in omega 6 which is inflammatory and competes with the anti-inflammatory Omega 3 in the body. seed oils contain so much omega 6 that they basically kill you with chronic inflammation.
2 - some of the seed oils ( Canola ) are made from genetically modified plants that were altogether poisonous but had their toxicity reduced to acceptable levels
3 - humans have evolved without any seed oils in the diet. seed oils went from having no place in human diet 100 years ago to being the primary source of calories in it today. this is the single biggest shock to human diet since agricultural revolution ( which itself ruined the health of people at the time ) and our biology can't cope with it.
Seasonal Ketosis is wild
Anyway, Lyn is Based
Hey Lyn I’m an M.D. and fully agree with you on this one! Grass fed 🥩 has more omega-3, grain fed 🥩 has more omega-6 that promotes inflammation. Just to say one aspect of it!
I think about this often.
They’re not all equal. Thermic effects, glycemic index, etc. so many factors. I’ve trained a looooong time. Never in my life have I met someone who’s obese because they ate too many apples.
For a generally sedentary person, I think lower carb diets are great. But if you’re exercising, particularly anything anaerobic, I think a low carb diet is almost completely counter intuitive.
I’m not much to debate but I like eating vegetarian food mostly. However when I’m out of the house in a night out I’ll eat most meat except beef due to my beliefs in Hinduism. It’s my personal preference so I don’t subject others to it.
Proof of work. I’m exceptionally active, yoga at the core, started doing triathalons etc…. Totally agree w grass fed beef. I like pinnacle farm ny strips myself, 100 percent grass fed, open pasture from aussie.. have a nutty almost dry aged flavour… love this post, love this aspect of you.
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There’s lots of obfuscation in the food industry and it’s easy to see once you stop listening to “the experts”
What I don't understand is why there are no restaurants or eateries that serve real food. If your traveling life is tough. Going to a burger joint and asking for patties is fine but hardly cultured. Feel a bit like a barbarian.
I guess most of the public is ignorant about what healthy food is, so there isn't a demand for it, hence fewer restaurants that serve it.
Ground beef very versatile too
It never occurred to me task my crossfit coach about protien because i just assumed i knew...
Well i asked her how nuch i should be eating because i didn't feel that 40 grams a day was enough, and I was always craving junk food and getting sick every 8 weeks or so...
She told me 1 gram per pound per day...minimum.... figgen minimum to make progress and for training to complete...
For me, thats 230 grams day.. my god...
My point is, FYI, if you're training and you constantly crave junk food.... you're probably in protien deficit.
I am a doctor and an engineer…and I totally agree that doctors are unhelpful regarding nutrition.
In fact, my secret weapon to outperforming all my medical school classmates on the pathology mini-board exam was to study the nutrition chapter in a pathology course outline from a different institution. We simply never covered nutrition in our pathology class, and the best way to perform better than those who know everything you know is to learn something they didn’t.
That said, carnivore is not a realistic diet for many people because of the cost. Even if it works great, which I feel it does for me these past two years, it’s not medically appropriate to recommend if it’s unrealistic for the patient…and it’s not clear that adding saturated fat to an otherwise shitty American diet is safe; there’s evidence to the contrary in fact…also, as doctors we are first and foremost there to make recommendations that have a chance at helping. Otherwise it’s wasted time/money/effort.
I’ve had a number of patients in a mostly Medicaid/uninsured clinic setting do well eating just hamburger and eggs. I tried to present options and let the patient decide.
😂😂😂 ah man. But seriously, High levels of ketones leads to T cell production which fights cancers most effectively. Everyone has cancer present in their body, But healthy bodies can manage the growth of cancer, While polluted bodies use toxins for cancer food.
You have it pretty much down, Intermittent fasting (12-18 hours of not eating) so your body can completely digest the food you eat, at least an hour of exercise, And plenty of protein. There are a few foods that are particularly good for this, Your body can completely digest egg whites. There are 23 branch amino acids that the brain uses for fuel and egg whites are the only thing that has all 23. In some strange hyper efficient diet you could eat just water and egg whites and stop pooping.
Rice and beans in combination is 21 of 23 branch aminos, And is probably the most cost effective way to get a balance of carbs and protein. You don’t want to completely eliminate carbs, Because it helps to maximize protein digestion, Ideally less carbs than protein but some carbs still. Protein and carbs bond in the digestive tract to make lasting energy the body can use and break down through the day.
Also fermenting vs putrefying foods. Vegetables tend to be fermenting while meats tend to be putrefying. It is a good idea to eat more fermenting foods than putrefying, Because your body needs fiber to keep digestion regular And putrefying foods tend to cause constipation. Your digestive tract can absorb nutrients from vegetables easier than meat, But it does not mean to totally avoid meat, Just to be conscious about including vegetables in your diet. Also that fat makes the best fuel for your brain. Fish oils, Medium chain triglycerides or coconut oil are both great with coffee and both can be absorbed very quickly for brain fuel.
One of my favorite neurotrophic stacks is l-theanine, Caffeine and GABA (Gamma Amino Butyric Acid). L-Theanine is only naturally present in green tea, But you can take it as a supplement. When you drink too much coffee and get jittery hands it is because your body is deficient in L- Theanine. GABA is what your brain produces when you sleep, And produces the human growth hormone and promotes brain development. The stack of caffeine, Theanine and GABA makes studying complex subjects very easy to retain. I feel like it makes learning new things exciting.
How do you have the wherewithal to drop a novel every hour? It’s not just any novel either. It always contains thoughtful well written subject matter
my experience as well.
and i agree on your cost analysis.
I am fortunate to live in an area with lots of pasture and healthy ruminants.
I like pork, cheese etc. but to get that quality is like $14+/lb. I can get a half of a grass finished cow for $7/lb. Nutrient dense, versatile and tastes good. I agree that it’s the best bang for the buck. Easier to source too.
People looking endlessly for pasture raised pork with organic feed and no seed oils will convert to a beef maximalist too.
Doesn’t grain fed beef have unfavourable omega 3:6 ratios compared to grass fed beef?
Oh you're going to have to stop talking like this. I'll never hear the end of it if I join the Lyn Alden fanclub.
I found Bitcoin via the carnivore/beef rabbit hole. I listened to Shawn Baker's HPO pod episode with Saifedean & Bitstein. That was enough to later figure out that I could use bitcoin to acquire my own pasture. I quickly learned that I didn't want to be without this stuff & so I adjusted my strategy & extended my time horizon.
Nice one Squeeks. 🧡🤙
Lol
What's abs got to do with it? It's not like you can't have abs on a donut diet.
Grass feed beef certainly isn’t cheap in this part of the world… appreciate the info though. I tend to stick to whole foods as much as possible and now fast when I’m travelling rather than eat bad foods out of convenience.
Same here, reading a lot about nutrition for a decade now and if I had to choose only 2 foods it could be grass-fed ground beef and fresh organic eggs.
Being unemployed right now, 1st one isn't in my range price tho.
This is why the cheeseburger is apex nutrition. Optimal balance of macronutrients, plus vitamins and minerals in the toppings.
Most doctors definitely are not literate on nutrition – they don't have time to go deeper into it, friend of mine in medical school hadn't even heard about oxidization of dietary fats and what it causes to the body.
Few months ago I was diagnosed with ankylosing spondylitis after an excruciating back pain episode. I already knew about carnivore as a symptom relief for autoimmune disease – I'm not fully carnivore, though beef heavy with an AIP-type of diet but with dairy and egg yolks that I seem to tolerate.
This has allowed me to go almost completely symptom free with no meds.
Upon my rheumatologist visit she said that my symptoms have improved so much that I can ditch the meds and only use the pain killers when needed, yet she didn't recommend an elimination diet due to "lack of scientific evidence". Completely ignoring my diet as a factor with my improvement. Just the idea of certain foods causing symptoms was foreign to her, even though there's thousands and thousands of anecdotes of a diet-autoimmune decease connection – and multiple rheumatic people I know via my friends have clearly noticed they can't tolerate pork (me included), even though they haven't done any type of elimination diet.
The scientific method is co-opted to mean whatever the authorities say. As if I can't reduce variables and test them on myself one by one and observe the effects of my body. Obviously, it's hard to isolate all variables, but by testing something again resulting with the same outcome, the more likely causational relationship we can attribute to it.
There is some change in tone in some areas, but after nation wide institutionalized regimes have pushed high-carb and high-seed oil diets for decades, with large agricultural and pharmaceutical tied interest with this view, the change is going to be slow and take time.
Talking about Nutrient-to-cost ratio is one of my favorite topics during dinner with the kids. It is a topic that serves as a counter-narrative for what children "learn" at school about health, nutrition, economy, sustainability, ecological and media.
Calories over cost, dog food is pretty high. Realistically though, flour is hard to beat.
What do you think about wild game?
Well put Lyn. Totally agree :-)
Spot on. When it comes to diet, trust what your body tells you, not what a "professional" tells you.
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