Oddbean

A NEW WAY TO CONNECT - COMING SOON Empowering collaborative knowledge sharing and discussing web content freely Why it matters?: While the Web is expansive, apart from social media, individuals are isolated and disconnected. Envision a scenario where we integrate a social layer directly onto every website, fostering connections. Here, people can effortlessly exchange knowledge, pose questions, and engage in discussions with one another about that website/topic. How it works?: - Install the browser extension, an app icon displayed on every web page. - Open app to initiate discussions with others. - Share questions, express your viewpoints, or explore what others are saying. - Easily toggle between page view and domain view. Read posts across all pages in the same domain or focus on this specific page. Seeking assistance with: Name of the app (extension). Any suggestions or recommendations are appreciated! https://image.nostr.build/30332cdd5e5740b0a43de0eb68ae30e62d8c5670b23056939d4ee951f2abc816.gif

This is great! Looks like what I’m trying to do with https://github.com/nostur-com/nids/blob/main/02.md nostr:note1n8gmdz8ageetudjn29sv8rzzjrdn9ywhx3qqx4zah6vfq383za8srfnduv What method are you using?

They will look like out of context posts in other clients or do you have a different solution for that? If you make them a kind 1 reply to kind 443 then people will see that they are replies or comments on a website and also they won’t be mixed up with other kind 1 that are just mentioning the url with “r”.

I suggest hash of some normalized version of the URL or you run into privacy issues. People won't use the extension if it tells relays all the pages they are visiting. Even with hashing, people will quickly learn the hash of pornhub but at least you won't leak any credentials that are encoded in the url.

I bet chatgpt is helpful here. The idea of this chat plugin is not new. rbutr and dissenter did it before. It never caught on I guess. With nostr, the comments will leak into social clients and if done right, help both in a feedback loop.

I would suggest to auto-fill some first line in the first replies to websites. Something to give context. And a link to the extension, too. Both can be stripped out easily when using the plugin but other clients would get context. ``` X-post comment on https://nostrudel.ninja  I like NoStrudel  Get the plugin at ... ```

Isso é muito interessante e algo que sempre quis ver no Nostr. Imagina estar em uma página e automaticamente poder comentar e ver comentários relacionados a essa url específica. E isso tudo aberto.

Creio que teve algo parecido uns 20 anos atrás e chamava Third Voice mas não foi para frente por várias razões... Principalmente por ter muito spam https://www.theregister.com/2004/06/11/five_years_ago/

Sim, sempre existiu essas iniciativas mas agora acho que é a primeira vez que está sendo implementado usando um protocolo aberto. Sobre spam, também tenho curiosidade em saber irão lidar com isso.

Lembrei que já existiu o Dissenter da GAB. Essa extensão foi banida das lojas. Será que vai acontecer o mesmo com essa do Nostr? https://www.engadget.com/2019-03-01-gab-dissenter-comments-extension.html

Finally! Been waiting for a Nostr version of the Dissenter extension =3 Name suggestion that doesn't end with -str: Atom Idea: The nucleus is Nostr, the neuros and protos would represent the relays or clients. The electrons represents the websites/pages. Nostr connecting the people across all websites and pages on the internet. Atom. "Download and install the Atom extension in your browser. Comment everywhere. Discuss anywhere."

A good question. If it’s irrelevant it can avoid but might be the case of deplatforming some of the nostr apps/tools depending on what happens and whether something is targeted for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#Dissenter) How much that may affect the whole nostr remains to be seen in that case. Relays and apps will see push back if nostr becomes more mainstream.

Looking forward to have true discussions in every single page in the web. nostr:nevent1qqsraht2dvargy7tn72gtnsrryhe8txa5wqp2srkfvy2280r6jnrqagpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpm7r06tl5nadv70yvjm6vxzqpxmucas94n4sch6kk3jd9wvx5c8sqvzqqqqqqy4390y4

Call it Satcom. Short for satellite communications, its a futuristic sounding word that conveys communication through a meta layer of our atmosphere, which could be symbolic of the meta layer of communication that nostr provides around webpages. Lots of domains available. Here's some logo inspiration: https://image.nostr.build/2c3d9f1a7482e48cf41b7c8ce50be6b0d026af09c0aecf8925bfb74e176a08a5.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1024x1024&blurhash=U9EoGY00bb-n%7EW00_3t7TJV%40%25M9GIUV%40Nan%2B&x=29a2791dce8c779cba8f15400ffb2e74713bec44c8de62468833499bc0d874a9 Wonderful project! I looking forward to using it!

@jingles is there any way to transpose this app from a user installed extension, to an ez-mode plugin for website developers? This would eliminate: 1) need for user install 2) extension store censorship (see gab dissenter ban by chrome, mozilla)

For extensions, users can unpack it with a few clicks to add into their browser even without going through their stores. But will definitely try to write a neutral description to pass the screening. For plugin for web devs will be a very different approach, as this product idea is allow us to discuss content on New York Times, Apple.com, on any websites.

💯agree apple, yt will not add this. Smaller sites would be first. Perhaps extension complements the website dev approach. On the description, consider adding that nostr is a FOSS protocol, and is not run by any single company.

Gpt prompt: “write me a nostr summary for the mozilla extension store that is in line with mozilla’s terms of service, and will not offend anyone in silicon valley. Do not mention censorship resistance, freedom of speech, zaps, or any other concepts that might trigger the censorship class, and the extension store bureaucrats.”

You might want to look into http://rbutr.com/ I can also help you get in touch with its founder Shane Greenup. While I like what this could enable, I see huge privacy concerns, too. Read this, too: https://medium.com/@Aegist/what-is-the-socratic-web-c6095c452c6

想象一下在所有精选评论底下，或禁评页面下，你都可以用Nostr ID和他人讨论 nostr:nevent1qqsraht2dvargy7tn72gtnsrryhe8txa5wqp2srkfvy2280r6jnrqagzyrhuxl5hlf866eu7ge9h5cvyqzdhe3mqtt8tp304ddry62ucdfs0qr7n6fl