Oddbean

Should Boomers be entirely written out of the history books out of spite, or written about extensively such that their selfishness and naïveté become a cautionary tale in perpetuity? I can’t decide. What say you? https://i.nostr.build/RmKWA.jpg

This is a false paradigm Since "dividing and conquering" doesn't make you immune, it doesn't change anything if you don't either. Just because you're not doing it, doesn't define you as a target.

No one should be written out of history. For the benefit of comming generations, in case they go looking for answers. Also while it is easy to generalize, it's individuals, often doing their best to make a living and raise kids in the circumstances they happen to be born to. It's interesting to hear young people speak about the old like it was a different species, as if it was a choice. The same of course goes the other way around, perhaps by the same people that "hated" the old when they were young, now they "hate" the young. I'm sure a lot was written about this and far better than I ever can.

Tend to agree with your view on the first point. However I would contend the Boomers are almost a different species. Humanity has never seen such a generation before. Everyone before and since has been concerned about the wellbeing of who and what comes next in a way they just aren’t and in large part I think that’s because of how indoctrinated and bought into the fiat system they have been. Recently I posted a quote about identity which has been on my mind: nostr:note1rqgpl4ylw9sf72nl4wrkpg2vur43whwppu25vjjmjm9t9jesa84sycwrsd And in my “Goldbugs aren’t Bitcoiners” note I wrote “And this is why the Goldbugs ultimately failed - they had no positive vision to articulate for the world, and thus no identity for others to adopt.” Goldbugs tend to be Boomers or late GenX at least. Your point that there is nuance I accept, but I’m thinking about the delineation of identity - both in terms of a positive one that people can adopt which I believe has to come from Millennials for a strong future, but inherit in that is the negative/out group whose values need to be rejected. I understand that most on #nostr would prefer to focus on the positive vision which is the more noble pursuit but the dirty work of “who is not” must still be done. So it’s not about “hate” but rather, how the negative traits that we want pushed out of culture are to be framed.

I understand and mostly agree. But I try to look from an individual point of view as much as I can. There are for sure boomers that built stuff that brought (by that time) unseen levels of prosperity. You focus on your field of expertise and make world a better place. And you can't influence everything. There are boomers and there are boomers. Also from european point of view, the pre-boomer generations were responsible for ww1, ww2 and communism. In czechia in 1950s commie mobs just took other people property en masse, sometimes made the owners flee, sometimes they killed them, sometimes they made them the lowest ranking "employees" on their former property while still forcing them to pay the mortgages even after there was a money reform. They even sent parents to a prison and left their little children to take care of themselves while robbing them of everything. Imagine being an individual on one or the other side of this. A big chunk of 20th century was so bad in europe, esp. if you ended up on the red side of the iron curtain. Things got better at the end of it in "boomer prime years". Of course there is a lot of to criticize, A LOT. Goldbugs - agree 100%, but some of them are switching out of doomerism to bitcoin, so there's that too.

You’ve followed me for a while so you know I’m not a collectivist in any sense and believe strongly in individual rights. Identity as a concept is beyond that. It fills a hole in the human psyche much like religion does. Or statism for that matter. It’s why this whole transmaoist movement has become so prominent. I get that you might prefer more nuance in such a discussion but @DcntralizedMind saw what I was doing. This was meant to be subversive. I’m not interested in nuance on this particular subject (generally I am), I have shittons of that in my own personal identity and how I ended up here as an #AUStrich rather than being one of a myriad European identities from my lineage. This thread was posted from my #Bitcoiner identity. An identity which I’m deeply interested in exploring, whose boundaries are not well defined, which I believe needs better definition if it is to survive and grow and be capable of being the white blood cells for this system trying to do something beyond me as an individual. nostr:note1jcvu55yrt85vapk79zvvav2emr9szpfce43d4c72tpn2yvg6n4nq72s53a