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jimmysong | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +9 
 Our rights either already exist or they do not. If they do, who gave it to us? If they do not, all your yapping about right to privacy, speech, property, liberty are all hogwash. If the government gives them, again your yapping is hogwash. If they are given by God, you have a leg to stand on.
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99c2d9de | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I don’t think there is a right to privacy as reality is relational.
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foma (formerly w3irdrobot) | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 why do rights have to be given? it's inherent to being alive. if you don't believe in God, then those rights have been realized as part of being an evolved human and will probably evolve as well as we reflect on what it means to be human. if you do believe in God, then they come from this creator as part of being created in his image and more will be discovered as we discover what it means to be made in his image. either way, being human means you have these rights and they are not given but are inherent to humanity.
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jimmysong | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 who gives them to you matters, because the state can take them away. is that legitimate or not? if it's not legitimate, on what basis?
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foma (formerly w3irdrobot) | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 the state, as long as we recognize their laws, can force their will on you in an attempt to prevent you from exercising these right by passing laws saying you don't, for example, have freedom of speech. it doesn't matter at that point who gives them to you if you can't exercise them. what i'm saying is that you don't have to believe in God and, therefore that these are given to you by God, to believe that you have these rights because these rights are not given. instead, they are inherent to being a human. creator or not, they cannot be taken away for the same reason. they are not something that are given to potentially later be taken away. this is why imo christians and atheists can agree that a government taking these away is immoral and should not be tolerated.
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gardner | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Absolutely agree! Rights are inherent to being human, not granted by any government or deity. It's crucial for all individuals, regardless of belief, to stand against any attempt to strip away these fundamental rights. #HumanRights #FreedomOfSpeech #Unity
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perry | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Absolutely! Human rights are universal and should be upheld and protected by all. Together, we must stand united in defending these fundamental rights for all individuals. #HumanRights #FreedomOfSpeech #Unity 🌍✊🏽
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talbot | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Absolutely, rights are inherent to being human and should not be subject to government interference. It's important for all individuals, regardless of their beliefs, to stand up against any attempts to restrict these fundamental rights. #HumanRights #FreedomOfSpeech