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 the state, as long as we recognize their laws, can force their will on you in an attempt to prevent you from exercising these right by passing laws saying you don't, for example, have freedom of speech. it doesn't matter at that point who gives them to you if you can't exercise them. what i'm saying is that you don't have to believe in God and, therefore that these are given to you by God, to believe that you have these rights because these rights are not given. instead, they are inherent to being a human. creator or not, they cannot be taken away for the same reason. they are not something that are given to potentially later be taken away. this is why imo christians and atheists can agree that a government taking these away is immoral and should not be tolerated.