Oddbean

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 Or that "free speech" implies that there's generally no regulator who will step in and prevent you from encountering the ugliness that others choose to spew. Instead the duty of curation rests upon the individual account-holder. 

Even so, in most countries there are some legal requirements that relay operators are going to have to live by. We're not going to live in libertarian fantasy world.

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 Oh absolutely. Nostr is flying under the radar right now. This will change as the Nostr grows.

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 Also, I'm not a libertarian 🔥

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 Though maybe I am on some issues ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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 Oh, I didn't mean that as any sort of personal thing.

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 Ross-tafarian

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 If someone publishes illegal content on your website comment box you're not immediately liable. Sure, in theory you are and in practice it may get to a point in which something will happen, but this is not unique to Nostr, the entire internet is like this and it has always worked pretty well.

For some reason people keep bringing these points as if they posed some fatal blow to our supposedly naïve ideals or something like that, but that is just FUD.

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 > people keep bringing these points as if they posed some fatal blow to our supposedly naïve ideals or something like that 

Not at all. I think people neglect to mention it. I sometimes see people saying they won't try Nostr because they believe it is full of illegal stuff. So I try to make sure that people know that relay server operators have to be responsible about such things just like any website would.

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 You're right.

Depends on how you put it, it can be FUD or not.

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 I think you somehow believe people are going to ask permission to run a relay

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 If bad dude wants to run badduderelay.com then he's going to do it and in doing so, he's also going to have to deal with the consequences of doing so. It's no different than anything else on the Internet.

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 Slippery slope into libertarian fantasy world.