Oddbean

When people migrate from Twitter to.. say... Threads, they are not looking for a new tech stack or a new app. They are looking for a new **community**. There is a fundamental misunderstanding that people care about the apps. No. They care about the communities. And they so happen to be using specific app brands. Communities make the apps. Not the other way around.

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In a couple of [bitcoin-election-4-year-fed-politics-ecpnomic-etc] cycles everyone will be a 'crypto bro' one way or another. This process can't be stopped. Why keep remembering the normies, they will join the majority. By the way Nostr is good, but not revolutionary enough to make people give up their usual social networks and especially messengers right now. It's good but not exceptional.

yes. I was looking for like minded people. Found them. I don't care about apps if they do what I need. btw. they banned me on twitter for sarcastic "hail hitler" and I can't even remove the account. I will always be able to delete my keys. big difference.

Communities come and go, but the technology persists. The point of a universal protocol is for multiple communities to be able to exist within it — like how bitcoin can be used even by enemies or people across the world from different communities. 🌎

Depending on who you follow. Apparently you don’t follow the vibrant Porsche community. Me either, but ,that’s because there’s not one. I would love that community to be here. I’ve looked for it. I want it mixed in with my bitcoin feed and my news feed and my PGA Tour feed that I’ve found on Nostr. But Nostr is harder than users want in an app UX. The friction keeps out anyone that isn’t hard-nosed with tech, like, say, a bitcoiner. I love to see many of you seeing this and striving to layer a smooth onboarding for users that aren’t here for the tech of it. That’s when communities will be able to come in bulk waves.

We need to figure a way to onboard new communities to nostr. IMO the main target should be self contained communities that are networked together well enough to move as a whole. I recently saw a thread on r/selfhosted about moving to a different platform. Nostr was barely mentioned and it was mainly dismissed due to the moderated communities NIP being "a clusterfuck". To be honest, reading through the NIP, I thought the same and it sounds like a PITA to implement to any working degree. https://image.nostr.build/78e196ff93424a2cee9c718c778351008eabe8e6022b0db17d05a84ece4dc535.jpg These guys should be the easiest in the world to get on nostr outside of bitcoin. Most of them would probably run their own relay. I think that with some outreach we could probably get them to try it but it needs to actually work. https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ On another note, I think the main way to onboard many users would be to make specialized niche apps that use common note kinds under the hood. Set up so that they have their own experience in their new hipster app, but all the content is visible on any other client like a one way mirror. Similar to how subreddits are all their own closed communities but reddit steals their top content to make a global feed for its new users. This way we can onboard communities by selling them a hub for their niche, but use their content to diversify the scene that users see when downloading a normal client because right now it's all a bitcoin circle-jerk.

Bitcoin circle-jerk 😂 That's surely how it felt when I joined and I came because I care about freedom. Yet, freedom is so much more than bitcoin. It's a state of mind. And bitcoin is just one of many expressions. There are lot to be said on this topic and it would be lovely to attract that diversity here.

It would be great if there's a way to only see that community and nothing else. Currently even if I'm interested in specific thing on nostr, other communities/topics keep leaking in. I don't even know how to set it up so I see only the content I care about (let's say "retrogames", "bitcoin development" and that's it, nothing else, no Trump, no Tyson, no wars...) and I'm fairly technical.

Apps and communities are used interchangeably in the normie world. I think with a slight exception to Facebook communities and small subreddits. I think one of these breakdowns in the case of twitter, is the "community" is a monolith. Nostr has the same potential if community driven culture isn't built into our user interfaces.

I just rejoined Nostr for the second time with a new identity I think the radical decentralization of Nostr is very interesting in the simplicity of its relay-based architecture, and it would be great if it could succeed In my previous Nostr incarnation I tried to find a community I could relate to by modifying the set of relays I was subscribed to, but I found I mostly got the same people on every relay I'm rejoining now with the hope that Nostr might have developed a more diverse user base, or that I could get a reasonable timeline by curating who I follow and block I'm a left-leaning software engineer working on privacy and AI. I can find many like-minded people on Mastodon and Bluesky, but not here on Nostr. Everyone here seems to be a crypto enthusiast. And although I find the blockchain very interesting from a conceptual and technical point of view, I'm highly skeptical of all the actual crypto that has been built on it. We'll see how long I'll stay. The one thing that makes it easier is using the Openvibe app which presents a unified feed of Nostr, Bluesky, Mastodon, and Threads, and allows crossposting across all four.

Correct, and what we just saw was a mass exodus where a certain subset of people had to make a frictionless migration to another platform and in that context it’s fair to ask why one app and not another… for that answer I propose my first comment on the UX.