Oddbean

I tried to zap you back the account renewal fee, but your wallet does not accept it. Send me an invoice and enjoy account on me and my time. Next time, if you are not happy with the service, or do not want to pay for someone’s time and work for 2 years hosting, and 1 year of full access, please do not purchase it. I understand that $8 a month can be hard for someone to afford, so no offense taken 🐶🐾🫂

Guys you have to decide if you say 1 sat = 1 sat or hey just $8 a month 😅 For me 120k feels like paying $100k in future purchasing power. Thank you for your offer, but no need to refund me, I started to buy the package to support the development and want to continue. Imo up to approx $50 feels resonable for me for such a case in the future, bear in mind guys we also want to pay for relays, support mutinity, damus purple sums up etc. 😀

> For me 120k feels like paying $100k in future purchasing power. Lol cointards figuring out why deflation absolutely kills any economy. Plenty of warnings were given by well meaning people but hey some people just need to take that stick and whack it over their own head. Now everyone's giddy about Bitcoin to the moon!!! and make-believe Bitcoin businesses accepting Bitcoin for future services (1 or more years ahead) are looking at the broken pieces of their shitty depraved existence.

Thank you for being a customer and your support @neo 🫂 We all live in a fiat world so easy for it to confuse and distract us all. 69k is about $50, we can move you to this account if you want, no problem, just let us know. This is still a new project for us, just over a year old, trying to find the best balance between pricing, services, labor, customer satisfaction, etc… All feedback is appreciated.

Hi @Brisket , notes about the account pricing: - These are annual plans. 69000sats is = $4 a month, not a lot even at ATHighs. 1 month ago it would have been $2.50. Regardless, we should not be pricing in dollars, 1sat = 1sat. - Since your initial plan a year ago, Fishcake has joined and rebuilt the entire site with a new account dashboard look and feel, additional features (CDN, backup, View All viewer, better uploader, etc). It is a MUCH better experience not to mention the 24/7 support. - Each of us put hours into nostr.build a day reviewing content, replying to issues, updating the site, etc. We maybe make a few hundred profit a month which we leave in the node for liquidity and emergency. Fishcake and I make no money from nostr.build. - And of course, we always have a 100% free service and will keep any media uploaded for a year if you decide not to renew!

Thanks for the detailed explanation & rationale behind the pricing. I'm a little concerned that you might be pushing people towards the free service. This is not good for anyone. People should pay for their services & Nostr build should be sustainable. I'm not a heavy uploader & could easily get away with 2GB per year. I think most users fit into this category & would find it hard to justify moving to a paid sub. I'm not complaining, just providing some feedback. I understand that this is difficult & has real world costs. I also have no issues with the team turning a profit for their work.

Great feedback, thank you. We have barely been breaking even for the last year, and now with the price of bitcoin, renewals and Fishcake added features, we were hoping to make a little extra for, savings, further development, additional 3rd party services, emergency, etc. We will discuss a cheaper account option, but given the work put into the service Ms by now, it is hard to find something that fits. We will continue to monitor. Reminder you can wait to renew until a better time in the next year while we keep your media saved. Also, we always offer a refund if not satisfied.

Yeah - I had a quick look through my feed. From the image URLs most seem to be using the free version. I can imagine how hard it is to even break even right now. Ideally everyone would share the burden, but new Nostr users aren't going to see the value at first. I do think a lower price point would help with increasing the number of subs. I wonder if an automatic free trial also might be worth exploring? After the trial, the npub would have to use one of the less ideal image hosting services.

Last time the story was still about subsidizing the hosting from fiat income obtained elsewhere and using the sat payments to stack sats. Now suddenly apparently the subsidies are not sustainable anymore and sats have to be sold for fiat to cover expenses. Urks doesn't get more shitty than that. How about stick the head into the gas oven. Also a great survival strategy.