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matt | 2 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 That's a wild leap to make.
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laanwj | 2 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 yes that's a big leap; i'm spiritual enough to believe in some sense of good and evil, and karma, but i don't believe in a god nor any specific religion
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niftynei | 2 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 my perspective is that god doesn’t exist in a world that has no good and evil; hence if one exists the other suddenly takes shape as well

i am aware that this discussion is all downstream of ineffable concepts that require experiential interaction with to fully grasp; im not sure it’s something that easily transmitted via text to a broad audience, especially given the preponderance of existing conceptualizations around the term “god”
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laanwj | 2 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 yes, it all depends on the conceptualization of god

for many people the subject is laden with a lot of trauma, like i'm very wary of "oh god exists, so everything in <pick holy book> is true and we all need to dogmatically follow that, no matter the consequences, and stop being curious about this world at all"
i have some intuition of what "good" means and it is not that

but more abstract conceptualizations might make sense, like how process philosophers such as Whitehead end up with some concept of god that's wayy different from what's commonly thought of, i dunno... i think the whole subject is inherently unknowable and mysterious