Oddbean

Mm, so i guess really its proximity to a target that matters. Blast radii rather than strike ranges. Also its been pointed out to me that radiation actually isn't as bad as you might think: note1s3v76cuxfugpuz2ka6xkchr4awkyycj6047fduqekhq0hcfm7y5s39wzyj

i think that east and west coast are the most likely targets, the stuff in the middle and in the low population density regions are all going to be fine, whether it be from ICBMs or mobs of looters i'm preferring the idea of the mountains of the midwest USA because of the relative distance from the many common types of disaster that are likely to increase in frequency over the next few decades, and the fact that it's much easier to defend yourself where access to weapons isn't already nazi germany level controlled, like most of the rest of the english speaking world and europe and asia there is plenty of reasons to be concerned about human-created disasters as well, they tend to be a lot more lethal, but what the sun and earth and stars and things from space are gonna bring are probably going to be very big problems too plus, there is an outlier possibility, which i consider to be fairly significant actually, of an intervention from the people who left behind all those ridiculously well made things in egypt and built the original pyramids and sphinx that is perhaps "crazy talk" to some but the evidence of their existence and their continuing interaction with their retarded cousins still stuck here on this rock are pretty strong IMO

radiation from plutonium bombs is way overhyped... it took 30 years for a whole nuclear reactor of shitloads of uranium that got covered in concrete to recover to the point that all the animals and plants are fully recovered in the region of Pripyat around Chernobyl the amount of material involved that leaked before they put the sarcophagus around it was maybe a few hundred kilos of very hot uranium... a typical nuclear bomb has like ounces to pounds of plutonium in it and that simply is not going to be comparable, even if it was all iodine 131 (which it isn't)

Very interesting. And now I recall reading that actually very few people died from radiation from chernobyl - as long as they had iodine to dilute the radioactive isotope (I131 I assume from your note). By the way have you seen the Chernobyl tv series? Brilliant. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7366338/

i tried to start watching it but stopped and yeah, the immediate toxicity is primarily from iodine 131, and to a lesser extent from caesium 137 but both of those are all decayed to much less toxic things within weeks that is not to say that the fine dusty uranium that boils out and recondenses and blows around is not toxic, just that its effects are slow, it doesn't absorb easily except into the lungs and doesn't pass from there easily into the blood, but the cancer rates are way above what they would have been since 1986 for decades afterwards but yeah, plutonium reaction is not a meltdown, it's so hot it explodes with more force than any chemical, hydrogen/oxygen/nitrogen based explosives, and mostly the atoms are shattered into subatomic high energy particles and electrons, so there is not a lot of this splitting into other elements like the iodine and cesium

I have in mind that it's true the "cancer rates were way above.." (although from covid I am very sceptical as to what any such data means or if it can be collected honestly etc) but that the cancer was all thyroid cancer, and very very treatable - so it didn't translate to mortality. Dunno, obviously, what you're into and not into, but 100% recommend the chernobyl tv series - not really for the historical / technical stuff (though there's a brilliant exposition of what went wrong and the stages of meltdown) but it was beautifully made, and has really stayed with me.

regarding the cancer, all kinds of things have led to the increased frequency of the disease... chemicals in the food supply and building materials and plastics, halides, plastic hardeners that disrupt the endocrine system, all the stuff in the bodies and interiors of cars, computers, phones, circuitry, genetically modified foods, nanomaterials in all kinds of things, these vaccines, the high carb diets of the upside down food pyramid, it's just a factor as you know, the mistakes that happened at chernobyl would be far less likely to occur with modern reactor technology, we are nearing the point where they can make them small enough to carry on the back of a truck and power a whole large town, and almost zero risk of a meltdown as for tv, i just generally don't enjoy watching theatre of any kind most of the time, the poisoning of it all with cultural marxism has just given me an allergy to the entire class of artform, haven't read very much fiction in a long time either, last few things i read were the william gibson sprawl trilogy (only the first two tho) and before that, years before, was Crime and Punishment mostly i get my fix of drama from computer games, metro and tomb raider mostly

Sure, but you'll trade nukes for 100 different jungle illnesses, gangs and revolutionaries, corrupt tyrannical governments, giant snakes, and inhabitants terrain. I've been in the Andes and the Amazon. I'll take my chances in Texas.

South America is a terrible place for anyone thinking on the multi generational time scale. Geomagnetic reversal is a significantly higher threat than the political theater that is nuclear war. In a post GR world, SA = North Pole.

also, regarding the space brothers... there is many sources for references to the promise of return, the Book of Enoch, Revelation, Daniel, this book i read The Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya is full of references, the hindus old book Vishnu Purana has some good parts that talk about this, and speaking of unchartedX in that episode about the vases you linked me to, he makes some references to old egyptian texts that talk about this ancient civilization of "gods", the Dogon tribe has myths about it (and they talk about Taurus and the Pleiades), and the Aztec, Maya, Inca, all have stories about it as well, probably there is stuff in chinese texts as well especially taoist and buddist i haven't been doing enough reading of that stuff though, kinda focused on my work

oh yeah, cancer is a disease connected to the cellular membrane, which is actually independent of the DNA and chromasomes and whatnot... they reproduce in the right conditions, what the cancer is, pretty much, is cells that have broken DNA that don't actually work anymore except to copy themselves, and the general cellular division mechanism just continues without any control normally DNA has coding to suicide the cells after a certain amount of time to prevent the accumulation of errors, and the stem cells have extremely strong protection against radiation and penetration of genetic material into them, as they are the master archive copies of the chromasomes... once the DNA is coded out to run cells it has to die or eventually it becomes cancer and yeah, mitochondria seems like a big part of what's going wrong with it, but one of the key elements is the process of apoptosis, and high blood sugar also has a big role in how cancer grows because like all cells, their primary building block and energy source is glucose one of the most simple ways to prevent cancer is actually related to iodine - if the body is overloaded with fluorine and bromine it disrupts the endocrine regulation of energy metabolism and causes the failure of apoptosis they put fluoride in the water and almost all plastics contain some amount of poly chloro bromo fire retardant compounds that snuff out oxidation and prevent plastics from burning, these in turn poison especially the thyroid and whole endocrine system and you just have to add a high carb diet, especially high sugar, and all kinds of nephrotoxic shit like these artificial sweeteners, and people are going blind, getting cancer, parkinsons, alzheimers the cure is of course pretty much keto/paleo/carnivore diet and more sunshine and clean air and water, and minimal plastics and for most people that should also include air cleaners that absorb fine particulates (the plastics decay) and the volatile stuff, traces of solvents and these fire retardants offgassing so yeah... living in cities is out of the question, for these reasons as well... being unable to provide your own food supply is the worst vulnerability you can have