No way I have that many followers. And sats sent and received seem to be backward. 😅 https://nostr.band/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl
This is what I see from Damus https://i.nostr.build/PO6k4.jpg
Higher than Stella 🚀🚀
I'm always talking to the same 10 people. 🤷♀️
Same. It seems like many enjoy it 🥳
I also think there’s a lot of npub tourism (active 1-3 months then leave/ retire that npub)
Yeah, it's like I'm dragging a bunch of dead npubs behind me. That must be how some people have 100k+ followers, but only about twice as much interaction as I do. Mine probably doesn't have as many dead npubs because it's just not as old. The stats would be so much more interesting, if they only contained npubs that had been active within 3 months.
Stats at different time intervals would be interesting I think the 100k+ followers comes partly because they’re celebrities from twitter and partly because of the trending circle jerk
Yeah, but I'm like... How have there been 100k people here? 🤷♀️😂 Feels like a little clique.
Doesn’t every new npub follow a set of npubs (if you use certain clients)? You can get to 100k+ easily in 2 years
Took me 6 months to get to 4k. 😂🙈
Agreed but we’re not celebrities 🤷🏾♂️
It should have read: “you can get to 100k+ easily if you’re a celebrity”
Doesn’t change anything in the end though 🤷🏾♂️
Well, it means that people aren't staying long enough to find npubs that aren't celebrities.
Welcome to nostr where the followers count is always wrong. https://image.nostr.build/8928a1e577c9ef30f5ed53b53c89867b15c483c0a6f6a459e02ac2c289da32ea.jpg
We’re not connected to the same relays at all. Might expkain some of the difference (follows are stored on relays)
Yeah, that's mostly a question of relay selection.
Following 467 Updated 1h Followers 274 That is what my Nostrudel shows.
oi! where do you get nostrudel to actually count them up? when i click on profile/followers tab i have to count rows and columns
It's on the profile page. Have to unclap the horizontal tab.
mine shows zero followers must be a thing in next i can shortcut counting them by just selecting them all and pasting into gedit, each follower has a number and so i scroll down and see i have 607 according to my relays
This is what I see on Nostur. At the beginning it stalls around 500 but then it rises to https://i.nostr.build/8G8ea.jpg
@trosso19 the only one we have in common is the mutiny blastr. Seems like it’s doing a lot of heavy lifting 🫡
That's weird, I see us having a bunch of relays in common. Nos.lol, bitcoiner.social, damus.io, etc
Interesting. This is what I see on Damus, for your relays. I see 6 https://i.nostr.build/lLqnw.jpg
This is what I see on #amathyst. Hoping someone who understands outbox can explain lol https://image.nostr.build/b6e9b16ced5b6073c0c9777164239dbdd3690b3c990cde0ad2832e1831d02365.jpg
The zap stats are really painful because I actually have hardly any bitcoin and I almost only get single or double-digit zaps, so it's like I'm being mocked. 😅 What I can see, in my Alby wallet, are lots of big sat amounts from Expired Requests. Is someone running some sort of scam or something? What are these amounts? They're not requests from me. 🤔 Are these ghost zaps or something?
Thanks. 😊
I appreciate your content! also trying out how these apps work. Primal crashed when I zapped several times in a row.
This is what I mean. I'm assuming this is what they're counting. Someone keeps doing this. And always in large amounts. https://i.nostr.build/Q7BMK.png
fluffing the numbers i guess?
Maybe. It makes it look like I'm making a bunch of money on all of this, when I've been losing money. That might discourage people from zapping me, so it seems malicious.
There's bugs so it might not be. I've been testing automated lightning payments since 2022. I'm having a difficult time with highlighter, but these zaps are not me.
I think many nostr devs underestimate the importance of balancing the zap economy because they think in abundance. There's this assumption that as nostr grows it will have money dumped into it like Facebook or YouTube except the money will go to the people instead of a corporation. People need to wake up and realize the deep state printing money to propagandize through Facebook and YouTube in a desperate oil-starved economy probably aren't gonna suddenly do wealth redistribution through nostr adoption. It's on us nostriches to fight against becoming another lopsided parasocial thing where few get rich and the many follow the few.
That happens whenever someone creates an invoice and the invoice expires before someone pays it. It even includes invoices that you yourself generate.
And I don’t think nostr.band includes these numbers. Zap receipts can be faked which is why the stats should be taken with a grain of salt.
Also, sent numbers could be lower than expected because people you zapped might be using a lightning address that does not support zaps. In that case they receive the sats, but no zap receipt is broadcast to relays. I did a quick check on your zaps received and they seem legit at a quick glance. Top 50 zaps received total comes out to 182k sats and you’ve received over 2k zaps. Top zap came from @ODELL on this note: nostr:note1dm5tmuzpfv5jjyf2hvtwchs50kqeuj2tc3zwfm2ccd0gkfwmyjvqcmp78e
Almost all of the zaps I received are very small. Like 7 sats or 100 sats. If I received all of those zaps, then where did they go? Poof! The only thing I can imagine, is that they're somehow counting my big transfers in from my Relai wallet as zaps, or something.
transfers in would not have a zap receipt. zap requests are only created from nostr clients and zap receipts should be broadcasted from your LNURL service provider upon successful payment of the zap request. if you've changed your lightning address in the past, it's possible the zaps are going to your old lightning address. this happens if your old lightning address is on relays out there or cached on nostr clients. someone built a tool that can check relays for your outdated profile recently. i forget who made it though.
I did change my alby address, when I got a new npub. 🤔
Here’s the zap receipt of your 42k sat zap from Odell on 6/11 https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0cyyn9w3gupy9rl585z37gcqc2epvq20xagw8fnvekazxkywlveqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmdqgs8nuqd8adpnmyqvxyle2crcxlyl7qarrhy7efu3ravg8lqx4c0gvsrdx9tp
Yes, that was the biggest zap I've received.
Next biggest is this one for 15k on 6/9. There’s also a few 10k sat zaps. https://njump.me/nevent1qqstxs94w9lvk6mmnlzwmw34r9j7g9yyp0mykp8ak9z5lr8jylcmnhqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmdqgs8nuqd8adpnmyqvxyle2crcxlyl7qarrhy7efu3ravg8lqx4c0gvskmy6k9
I ran the numbers and the ones since June 5 seem to be correct. Almost all the zap from Odell and a couple other 10k+. That's the oldest screenshot I have. The reason I'm still broke is that I spent over 521k sats, most from my Relai wallet, not my zap wallet. Thought I was going nuts. Still don't know why the sats received are so high, tho. I find it hard to believe that I received that many zaps within 5 months, especially as the large zaps are all recent.
Good grief, @mleku . 😂
i am animated by the holy spirit, be ye grateful of the works of the Lord
also, it was good grief, i had much pleasure in its loss
🫂 You guys are making my day. I have enough to pay for my subscriptions next month. I guess that's one more month where I don't need a day job. 😂
hey, last year i was sharing my sponsorship to help my helper in nigeria keep his internet connection on he learned lots of internet skills, i'm pretty sure, but eventually he wasn't really focused on the task (related to https://github.com/indra-labs/indranet ) i am blessed by my fortune to have an avid and cereal tech bro organising for me to get paid as i build and learn i am hoping that i can continue towards this advancement of my brothers and sisters, and i probably will do it again, so, watch out, if you wish no good fortune upon yourself
😂
you begged in such a humble and sweet way, that i was provoked in these hours of today that i needed to provision you with sats it's nothing personal, but that you are a great servant of goodness in this place that i am right now and i honor that
I'm so glad we're frens now. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/3a/bb/fb3abb3ad0f40312794d7abd2e66e962.jpg
a lot of small zaps add up. on primal it says you've receive 2,660 zaps and i don't think that includes anon zaps.
I found the explanation. I got a gigantic zap-refund for a LN-spend I'd made. So, if you remove those 300k, the sats received make sense, again. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzphtxf40yq9jr82xdd8cqtts5szqyx5tcndvaukhsvfmduetr85ceqqsz3raygthavkly3sv3lsy777p9ddcuev76jznqwunpau0x3rlpr9s309y3d
I'm not generating those invoices.
then they were generated by people who requested an invoice, but never completed the payment. this can happen for many different reasons. sometimes people change their mind, sometimes there's a bug with their nostr client, sometimes there's an issue with your LNURL service provider, etc.
Do most people even look at those stats? If most know the stats are approximate
Most will assume they're not way off, at least. You can see them in many clients.
The total amount of sats sent and received is viewable in many clients?
Yes. At least, I've seen it. 🤷♀️
I haven’t seen it on an iOS client yet. Maybe a perk of android clients or web clients
Mmmmhhhhh, I just tried to send you 1k but that doesn't seem to have worked. At least they're not gone for me yet 🤔
Yeah, nothing arrived. 🤷♀️
🤷🏼♀️ I tried it again and the same