No way I have that many followers.
And sats sent and received seem to be backward. 😅

https://nostr.band/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl


This is what I see from Damus https://i.nostr.build/PO6k4.jpg


Higher than Stella 🚀🚀


I'm always talking to the same 10 people. 🤷♀


Same. It seems like many enjoy it 🥳


Welcome to nostr where the followers count is always wrong.

https://image.nostr.build/8928a1e577c9ef30f5ed53b53c89867b15c483c0a6f6a459e02ac2c289da32ea.jpg


I also think there’s a lot of npub tourism (active 1-3 months then leave/ retire that npub)


We’re not connected to the same relays at all. Might expkain some of the difference (follows are stored on relays)


The zap stats are really painful because I actually have hardly any bitcoin and I almost only get single or double-digit zaps, so it's like I'm being mocked. 😅

What I can see, in my Alby wallet, are lots of big sat amounts from Expired Requests. Is someone running some sort of scam or something? What are these amounts? They're not requests from me. 🤔 Are these ghost zaps or something?


Yeah, it's like I'm dragging a bunch of dead npubs behind me. That must be how some people have 100k+ followers, but only about twice as much interaction as I do.
Mine probably doesn't have as many dead npubs because it's just not as old.

The stats would be so much more interesting, if they only contained npubs that had been active within 3 months.


Yeah, that's mostly a question of relay selection.


nostr:npub1xr5vhu2z0sfhlfsxwjnrjscurx5adaxq0lfft80cx9vwva8uew4qk293g6 the only one we have in common is the mutiny blastr. Seems like it’s doing a lot of heavy lifting 🫡


it's such a rich vein of data to analyse for all kinds of reasons... it's gonna be interesting to see as people start to build good analytics


Following
    467
    Updated 1h

Followers
    274

That is what my Nostrudel shows.


oi! where do you get nostrudel to actually count them up? when i click on profile/followers tab i have to count rows and columns


This is what I see on Nostur. At the beginning it stalls around 500 but then it rises to https://i.nostr.build/8G8ea.jpg


That's weird, I see us having a bunch of relays in common. Nos.lol, bitcoiner.social, damus.io, etc


Interesting. This is what I see on Damus, for your relays. I see 6 https://i.nostr.build/lLqnw.jpg


I’m not connected to bitcoiner social


I guess the follower count isn’t the only thing that’s inaccurate


Thanks. 😊


This is what I see on #amathyst. Hoping someone who understands outbox can explain lol
https://image.nostr.build/b6e9b16ced5b6073c0c9777164239dbdd3690b3c990cde0ad2832e1831d02365.jpg


This is what I mean. I'm assuming this is what they're counting. Someone keeps doing this. And always in large amounts.

https://i.nostr.build/Q7BMK.png


I appreciate your content! also trying out how these apps work. Primal crashed when I zapped several times in a row.


Ah you’re using outbox. I guess that explains why there’s a missmatch between what I see and what you see. The mutiny blastr is the only one you need for us to connect 😂


Are you using the Strike (integrated) wallet?


fluffing the numbers i guess?


I believe so. the wallet that's built into Primal is what I'm using


It's on the profile page. Have to unclap the horizontal tab.


Stats at different time intervals would be interesting

I think the 100k+ followers comes partly because they’re celebrities from twitter and partly because of the trending circle jerk


mine shows zero followers

must be a thing in next

i can shortcut counting them by just selecting them all and pasting into gedit, each follower has a number and so i scroll down and see i have 607 according to my relays


Maybe. It makes it look like I'm making a bunch of money on all of this, when I've been losing money.
That might discourage people from zapping me, so it seems malicious.


the pettiness of the reddit/loli/nazi/spook crowd is hilarious

i value your content so i'm going to make sure you have some little extra sats to send at least

been getting a lot of zaps lately, so it's nbd, just the weather i guess


Do most people even look at those stats? If most know the stats are approximate


There's bugs so it might not be. I've been  testing automated lightning payments since 2022. I'm having a difficult time with highlighter, but these zaps are not me.


That happens whenever someone creates an invoice and the invoice expires before someone pays it. It even includes invoices that you yourself generate.


And I don’t think nostr.band includes these numbers. Zap receipts can be faked which is why the stats should be taken with a grain of salt.


I think many nostr devs underestimate the importance of balancing the zap economy because they think in abundance. There's this assumption that as nostr grows it will have money dumped into it like Facebook or YouTube except the money will go to the people instead of a corporation.

People need to wake up and realize the deep state printing money to propagandize through Facebook and YouTube in a desperate oil-starved economy probably aren't gonna suddenly do wealth redistribution through nostr adoption.

It's on us nostriches to fight against becoming another lopsided parasocial thing where few get rich and the many follow the few.


Also, sent numbers could be lower than expected because people you zapped might be using a lightning address that does not support zaps. In that case they receive the sats, but no zap receipt is broadcast to relays.

I did a quick check on your zaps received and they seem legit at a quick glance. Top 50 zaps received total comes out to 182k sats and you’ve received over 2k zaps. Top zap came from nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx on this note:

nostr:note1dm5tmuzpfv5jjyf2hvtwchs50kqeuj2tc3zwfm2ccd0gkfwmyjvqcmp78e


Almost all of the zaps I received are very small. Like 7 sats or 100 sats.

If I received all of those zaps, then where did they go? Poof!

The only thing I can imagine, is that they're somehow counting my big transfers in from my Relai wallet as zaps, or something.


I'm not generating those invoices.


transfers in would not have a zap receipt. zap requests are only created from nostr clients and zap receipts should be broadcasted from your LNURL service provider upon successful payment of the zap request. if you've changed your lightning address in the past, it's possible the zaps are going to your old lightning address. this happens if your old lightning address is on relays out there or cached on nostr clients. someone built a tool that can check relays for your outdated profile recently. i forget who made it though.


Most will assume they're not way off, at least. You can see them in many clients.


I did change my alby address, when I got a new npub. 🤔


The total amount of sats sent and received is viewable in many clients?


Yes. At least, I've seen it. 🤷♀


But I changed it before adding it to my new profile.


Perhaps people are charging you for reading your posts and being dissatisfied with your posts.


I haven’t seen it on an iOS client yet. Maybe a perk of android clients or web clients


Here’s the zap receipt of your 42k sat zap from Odell on 6/11

https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0cyyn9w3gupy9rl585z37gcqc2epvq20xagw8fnvekazxkywlveqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmdqgs8nuqd8adpnmyqvxyle2crcxlyl7qarrhy7efu3ravg8lqx4c0gvsrdx9tp


Yes, that was the biggest zap I've received.


Possible. 🤔

😅


They're all just showing the band stats.


Next biggest is this one for 15k on 6/9. There’s also a few 10k sat zaps.

https://njump.me/nevent1qqstxs94w9lvk6mmnlzwmw34r9j7g9yyp0mykp8ak9z5lr8jylcmnhqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmdqgs8nuqd8adpnmyqvxyle2crcxlyl7qarrhy7efu3ravg8lqx4c0gvskmy6k9


I’m only looking at zaps to your current npub


Mmmmhhhhh, I just tried to send you 1k but that doesn't seem to have worked. At least they're not gone for me yet 🤔


then they were generated by people who requested an invoice, but never completed the payment. this can happen for many different reasons. sometimes people change their mind, sometimes there's a bug with their nostr client, sometimes there's an issue with your LNURL service provider, etc.


Yeah, nothing arrived. 🤷♀


🤷🏼♀ I tried it again and the same


I ran the numbers and the ones since June 5 seem to be correct. Almost all the zap from Odell and a couple other 10k+. That's the oldest screenshot I have.

The reason I'm still broke is that I spent over 521k sats, most from my Relai wallet, not my zap wallet.
Thought I was going nuts.

Still don't know why the sats received are so high, tho. I find it hard to believe that I received that many zaps within 5 months, especially as the large zaps are all recent.


Good grief, nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku . 😂


Ha ha! That appears to be it. 🤣🤣🤣


i am animated by the holy spirit, be ye grateful of the works of the Lord


also, it was good grief, i had much pleasure in its loss


🫂

You guys are making my day. I have enough to pay for my subscriptions next month.
I guess that's one more month where I don't need a day job. 😂


I can't seem to zap you, either. Weird.


I can see what you send me immediately. That's really strange. I'll have to take a closer look tomorrow


a lot of small zaps add up. on primal it says you've receive 2,660 zaps and i don't think that includes anon zaps.


hey, last year i was sharing my sponsorship to help my helper in nigeria keep his internet connection on

he learned lots of internet skills, i'm pretty sure, but eventually he wasn't really focused on the task (related to https://github.com/indra-labs/indranet )

i am blessed by my fortune to have an avid and cereal tech bro organising for me to get paid as i build and learn

i am hoping that i can continue towards this advancement of my brothers and sisters, and i probably will do it again, so, watch out, if you wish no good fortune upon yourself


I don't seem to be getting anon zaps, or only very rarely.


you begged in such a humble and sweet way, that i was provoked in these hours of today that i needed to provision you with sats

it's nothing personal, but that you are a great servant of goodness in this place that i am right now and i honor that


I found the explanation. I got a gigantic zap-refund for a LN-spend I'd made. So, if you remove those 300k, the sats received make sense, again.

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzphtxf40yq9jr82xdd8cqtts5szqyx5tcndvaukhsvfmduetr85ceqqsz3raygthavkly3sv3lsy777p9ddcuev76jznqwunpau0x3rlpr9s309y3d


Yeah, or the software project gets bought by Microsoft or one of the FANGs. Like GitHub did.


Yeah, the next followers is way off.


Yeah, but I'm like... How have there been 100k people here? 🤷♀😂

Feels like a little clique.


I'm so glad we're frens now.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/3a/bb/fb3abb3ad0f40312794d7abd2e66e962.jpg


Doesn’t every new npub follow a set of npubs (if you use certain clients)? You can get to 100k+ easily in 2 years


Took me 6 months to get to 4k. 😂🙈


it's nothing, really

the whole reason for winning a boon is to share it


Agreed but we’re not celebrities 🤷🏾♂


It should have read: “you can get to 100k+ easily if you’re a celebrity”


Doesn’t change anything in the end though 🤷🏾♂


Well, it means that people aren't staying long enough to find npubs that aren't celebrities.


Or that they don’t unfollow the default list. But yes I agree there’s a lot of npub tourism