Oddbean new post about login | logout IF YOU ARE ONLY USING A SINGLE NOSTR CLIENT CONSIDER SPREADING YOUR WINGS AND TRYING OUT OTHERS. SO MANY SOLID OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. ALL OFFERING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY OPEN SOURCE CONTRIBUTORS WORKING TIRELESSLY TO BUILD THEM OUT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
Spread your wings 🪽 nostr:note1v2u9m6s52zuw0e0p0jme5k2mtc8734lzfu45gdwhcdgjfc9kcuxsv0rvrr
@ODELL - Any personal favourites? I started off with Amethyst and have since moved to Primal.
Primal, Damus, and Gossip are my favorites.
GOOD MORNING SIR! OSLO IS ALMOST!
Good morning. How do you chose your focal point?
GM. IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH SO MUCH INNOVATION ON NOSTR BUT TOTALLY WORTH IT. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.
Especially the ones that present the "other stuff." This isn't Twitter
-primal investor
It's great.
Its an npub KYC honeypot
KYC is a choice. You don't have to KYC to send zaps on Android.
Negative, I'm on android it's not an option.
Settings > Wallet > Toggle off "Use Primal Wallet"
https://typesense.org/blog/why-we-are-not-raising-funds/
Sound familiar to anyone? https://image.nostr.build/de5fed91e76450e034a438ec93e03ed929c49758c663437f5336366da1efaa0b.jpg
You guys are not building freedom tech. Primal & Coinkite are in bed together, raping you for dollars and not providing long term benefit to the Bitcoin OSS ecosystem. https://image.nostr.build/00750399a895dd3b61943a7c29de6e22c9b3ccc285477030272e1cc2987cb1b2.jpg
Oh, so you have a vendetta against Primal and Coinkite. I believe both companies should be free to work together. I also haven't met or encountered anyone who was being forced to use either of their products. Primal is OSS. Both companies seem to be delivering value to their users. I don't think every company that engages with Bitcoin is obligated to provide long term benefit to the Bitcoin OSS ecosystem. It would be cooler if they did. I won't be responding after this because this no longer seems to be about what the OP was about.
I don't have a vendetta. I have a mind which can parse through the bullshit. Coinkite has brought nothing but fake marketing to the space & I mentioned them because it's the same thing primal is going to do. It's why they're all in bed together.
It's incredible to see people pretend that coinkite & primal actually innovated on something. They're window dressing to piggy back off others' work, just really good at marketing.
Bitcoin (and nostr?) made permissionlessness great again Unfortunately, companies in the space are the obvious target to "turncoat" (personally, not a fan of coinkite terms... Haven't checked recently, but last time I did, there was AML terms in there)
what is there to pretend? coinkite was the first hardware wallet that offered complete airgapped functionality using secure elements even the industrial design and packaging is thoughtful compared to the other participants in the market. Innovation doesn't only reside on the PCB. if anything, Coldcard is overkill -- bitcoiner paranoia is second-to-none
Secure elements are only beneficial because of the stateheld nature & airgapping with SD card isn't much different than USB. The real innovation in PSBT was doing it through QR. ALOT of people who own a CC end up plugging in via USB btw.
To achieve the same security assurances as QR you would need to use a new SD card for each & every transaction. This has already been admitted by NVK btw.
Then we have the walk of shame... nostr:nevent1qqs0cygkjf3ru9sgk9uz598akwdnt67uan7kk7kvjy277x6fupu6rdqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpc3xpfa0xwem5vq8gygug4ne8nh4354tg0zevk7mke2ljruh8xdvqvzqqqqqqy5ruwp6
PSBTs off QR codes is a hack, look no further than the rolling QR Codes for multi-sig. if you really dig into it with a tinfoil hat, passing PSBTs off SD cards is actually safer -- less dependencies at the end of the day, no different than USB? what interface do you think your camera runs off of? another innovation you don't see elsewhere? NFC that you can turn off physically I don't even have a cold card 🤣 I give props because it is deserved.
I see where your head is at but I think you're wrong about this. Trezor doesn't get it's due bc they supported shitcoin firmwares, but all they did was add SD card support. I haven't seen a single person get pwned using the Trezor suite of products. QR is a huge innovation and you know it, but I think you're taking this stance as you don't seem to care about the FOSS aspect - correct me if I'm wrong but that's my hunch.
I hope you also realize the vulnerabilies that they left their customers open to. These great innovators. You talk about multisig ... https://image.nostr.build/436524bf19f17e8468fb5df0f3995ed55f47ece63fec9b5c13f7940fe1ab8194.jpg
No, you're wrong about this. Trezor and Coldcard are very different things if you get down to the physical design. Trezor getting pwned -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9y-KQbqi4 QR is a hack. No hate, I use it everyday I do care about the FOSS aspect, not my business though
They can literally do this with every HWW. Which already happened with the mk2 as I showed you. And mk1. You're so salty it hurts.
Why do you think MK4 has two SEcure elements now? Because one was safe enough? It's a never ending rabbit hole of close source stuff. I prefer stateless & QR. Or USB and wipe. You can repeat your garbage about QR & conveniently talk about NFC being able to be neutered...but you can't take away from the security benefits. Sorry kid,
so your threat model is less severe, happy for you
My threat model takes into account people who act like experts but aren't. https://bitbox.swiss/blog/coldcard-isolation-bypass/
Vulnerable AF, this wouldn't be acceptable if any other "brand" has this going after so many years in biz. They didn't pay a single bounty, fuggin shady fucks. nostr:nevent1qqspmv5g2na728re2xwvs0arga8cmtuhjy7mgsfayjcrcxmwjprfgqspzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuendwsh8w6t69e3xj7szyr3zvzn67vanhgcqwsg3c3t8j080trf2ks79jedahdj4ly8ewwv6cqcyqqqqqqg7m0ugn
Good morning 🌞
I've ried out using nostr with: Iris Snort Nostur Damus Primal Nostrudel Satellite Amethyst Mutiny npub. cash Minibits Citrine Amber Start9 relay nostr. build zap. store Zapstream zap wiki Shipyard Highlighter Iefan stuff.. plus more I can't remember
What’s your top 3 from that?
Can’t hear you. Muted and list in the list
Whats your favourite?
the early adopter grind
algia?
My product is sold only on NOSTR, because it works with lightning and that's why there is no need to sell it on other mainstream channels where people don't care about the evolution of Bitcoin.
Id appreciate some recommendations or resources if you’ve got any
DAMUS - IOS ONLY AMETHYST - ANDROID ONLY GOSSIP - DESKTOP ONLY PRIMAL SATELLITE EARTH CORACLE HIGHLIGHTER ZAP STREAM SNORT SOCIAL IF YOU LISTEN TO CITADEL DISPATCH I HAVE HAD RIPS WITH MOST OF THE DEVS BEHIND THESE CLIENTS. STILL NEED TO GET VITOR ON.
Its so hard to know if Odell is mad, crazy, nice or beinging weird with all caps.😃🤣😂 either way, its entertaining.
HE IS JUST SPEAKING CLEARLY 😂
Oh boy, we got another one here. 😂🤗
GOOD MORNING 🫡
GM 🤠🤙 AMETHYST 4 LIFE @Vitor Pamplona
What are your top Nostr clients of choice?
nostr:note1esncp5t24enqdqrp5ctfqzfdmgtr5j4s8hzcmtzc8npfd96uw9rqhqf0e4
Could you compile and create a page for client devs only guest segments for nostr newbies?
Good morning, you can try using NostrX. http://nostrx.app/
GOOD MORNING NOSTR, PLAN THAT GOAT LIFE
tried a couple and stayed with primal
GM. GOOD ADVICE.
GM☕️☕️🌅Damus user. You motivated me spend more time with Primal.🤝
GM! USING PRIMAL ON MOBILE AND CURRENTLY TRYING OUT LUME ON DESKTOP🫡
That’s the beauty of #nostr
HOWEVER, PRIORITIZE THE PRO-ZAP CLIENTS
make sure you are utilizing something like nos2x or amber so you dont insert nsec directly into clients
Does Jason Lowery use primal?
Yes! Can’t wait for @satlantis
and provide feedback on your favorite client features to the rest of nostr. bring your feedback to the market.
Seriously though. So grateful to have so many options and versatility. 🙏👏🏻💯
