IF YOU ARE ONLY USING A SINGLE NOSTR CLIENT CONSIDER SPREADING YOUR WINGS AND TRYING OUT OTHERS.

SO MANY SOLID OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. ALL OFFERING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY OPEN SOURCE CONTRIBUTORS WORKING TIRELESSLY TO BUILD THEM OUT.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.


GM ⚡


And then if you don't like any of the clients you can build one   GM


Spread your wings 🪽
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GOOD MORNING. STAY HUMBLE AND STACK ZAPS


nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx - Any personal favourites? I started off with Amethyst and have since moved to Primal.


GOOD MORNING SIR! OSLO IS ALMOST!


I'm partial to amethyst, Coracle, and gossip.


Good morning.

How do you chose your focal point?


GM. IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH SO MUCH INNOVATION ON NOSTR BUT TOTALLY WORTH IT.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.


🫡 gm


Onward 🫡


Especially the ones that present the "other stuff." This isn't Twitter


-primal investor


It's great.


Primal, Damus, and Gossip are my favorites.


Good morning 🌞


gm, working on it


Grateful 🫡 GM


Its an npub KYC honeypot


GM ;-)


Just yesterday I was able to try almost all of nostrapp’s clients

I’ll stay with 2 web and 2 for mobile

GM 🤙🏼


KYC is a choice. You don't have to KYC to send zaps on Android.


I've ried out using nostr with:
Iris
Snort
Nostur
Damus
Primal
Nostrudel
Satellite
Amethyst
Mutiny
npub. cash
Minibits
Citrine
Amber
Start9 relay
nostr. build
zap. store
Zapstream
zap wiki
Shipyard
Highlighter
Iefan stuff.. plus more I can't remember


My product is sold only on NOSTR, because it works with lightning and that's why there is no need to sell it on other mainstream channels where people don't care about the evolution of Bitcoin.


Id appreciate some recommendations or resources if you’ve got any


GOOD MORNING 🫡


GM 🤠🤙 AMETHYST 4 LIFE nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z


What are your top Nostr clients of choice?


DAMUS - IOS ONLY
AMETHYST - ANDROID ONLY
GOSSIP - DESKTOP ONLY
PRIMAL
SATELLITE EARTH
CORACLE
HIGHLIGHTER
ZAP STREAM
SNORT SOCIAL

IF YOU LISTEN TO CITADEL DISPATCH I HAVE HAD RIPS WITH MOST OF THE DEVS BEHIND THESE CLIENTS. STILL NEED TO GET VITOR ON.


Onward 🫡


What’s your top 3 from that?


Can’t hear you. Muted and list in the list


Super proud to have built one thing from that list 🔥🙌🏻


YakiHonne
Onosendai
Yondar
Flare


Whats your favourite?


Good morning, you can try using NostrX.
http://nostrx.app/


npub.cash is insane power!


Amethyst is top mobile freedom tech client


💯 good morning


Astral.ninja is my favorite


Nice! I started on Astral.Ninja and Nostrgram. (Sheds a tear for the ones no longer with us) hah! #Nostr #Relays #Nostrgram #AstralNinja #NPUB #PubKey #PrivKey


What happened to nostr.gram?


I feel this! Still is normie spaces but only to promo where the future ought to be! 🤙⚡


Hah! It's not still running is it? I thought it was abandoned....?


Could you compile and create a page for client devs only guest segments for nostr newbies?


GM 🫡


Negative, I'm on android it's not an option.


Its so hard to know if Odell is mad, crazy, nice or beinging weird with all caps.😃🤣😂 either way, its entertaining.


SEEMS LIKE A CLASSIC CASE OF DEVELOPER BURN OUT.


HE IS JUST SPEAKING CLEARLY 😂


Zap.stream is so underrated.


Settings > Wallet > Toggle off "Use Primal Wallet"


Sound familiar to anyone?

https://image.nostr.build/de5fed91e76450e034a438ec93e03ed929c49758c663437f5336366da1efaa0b.jpg


You guys are not building freedom tech.

Primal & Coinkite are in bed together, raping you for dollars and not providing long term benefit to the Bitcoin OSS ecosystem.

 https://image.nostr.build/00750399a895dd3b61943a7c29de6e22c9b3ccc285477030272e1cc2987cb1b2.jpg


Odell Good.


GOOD MORNING NOSTR, PLAN THAT GOAT LIFE


:pepflex:


Thanks. Hard to keep up these days!


the early adopter grind


tried a couple and stayed with primal


Oh, so you have a vendetta against Primal and Coinkite. I believe both companies should be free to work together. I also haven't met or encountered anyone who was being forced to use either of their products.

Primal is OSS. Both companies seem to be delivering value to their users. I don't think every company that engages with Bitcoin is obligated to provide long term benefit to the Bitcoin OSS ecosystem. It would be cooler if they did.

I won't be responding after this because this no longer seems to be about what the OP was about.


Oh boy, we got another one here. 😂🤗


algia?


I don't have a vendetta.

I have a mind which can parse through the bullshit.

Coinkite has brought nothing but fake marketing to the space & I mentioned them because it's the same thing primal is going to do.

It's why they're all in bed together.


It's incredible to see people pretend that coinkite & primal actually innovated on something.

They're window dressing to piggy back off others' work, just really good at marketing.


Suggestions for desktop clients?


The one he's invested in.


Bitcoin (and nostr?) made permissionlessness great again

Unfortunately, companies in the space are the obvious target to "turncoat" (personally, not a fan of coinkite terms... Haven't checked recently, but last time I did, there was AML terms in there)


Onward 🫡


GM. GOOD ADVICE.


IF YOU ARE ONLY USING A SINGLE NOSTR CLIENT CONSIDER SPREADING YOUR WINGS AND TRYING OUT OTHERS.

SO MANY SOLID OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. ALL OFFERING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY OPEN SOURCE CONTRIBUTORS WORKING TIRELESSLY TO BUILD THEM OUT.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.


All of the above. 😜


GM 😉


Yeah! I am using TWO nostr clients!


GM 🫡 nostr only


Same


GM☕☕🌅Damus user. You motivated me spend more time with Primal.🤝


GM! USING PRIMAL ON MOBILE AND CURRENTLY TRYING OUT LUME ON DESKTOP🫡


GOSSIP

https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip


That’s the beauty of #nostr


All the NOSTR clients are a fucking shit !


what is there to pretend? coinkite was the first hardware wallet that offered complete airgapped functionality using secure elements

even the industrial design and packaging is thoughtful compared to the other participants in the market. Innovation doesn't only reside on the PCB.

if anything, Coldcard is overkill -- bitcoiner paranoia is second-to-none


Secure elements are only beneficial because of the stateheld nature & airgapping with SD card isn't much different than USB.

The real innovation in PSBT was doing it through QR.

ALOT of people who own a CC end up plugging in via USB btw.


To achieve the same security assurances as QR you would need to use a new SD card for each & every transaction.

This has already been admitted by NVK btw.


Then we have the walk of shame...
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PSBTs off QR codes is a hack, look no further than the rolling QR Codes for multi-sig. if you really dig into it with a tinfoil hat, passing PSBTs off SD cards is actually safer -- less dependencies at the end of the day, no different than USB? what interface do you think your camera runs off of?

another innovation you don't see elsewhere? NFC that you can turn off physically

I don't even have a cold card 🤣 I give props because it is deserved.


I see where your head is at but I think you're wrong about this.

Trezor doesn't get it's due bc they supported shitcoin firmwares, but all they did was add SD card support.

I haven't seen a single person get pwned using the Trezor suite of products.

QR is a huge innovation and you know it, but I think you're taking this stance as you don't seem to care about the FOSS aspect - correct me if I'm wrong but that's my hunch.


I hope you also realize the vulnerabilies that they left their customers open to. These great innovators.

You talk about multisig ...

https://image.nostr.build/436524bf19f17e8468fb5df0f3995ed55f47ece63fec9b5c13f7940fe1ab8194.jpg


No, you're wrong about this. Trezor and Coldcard are very different things if you get down to the physical design.

Trezor getting pwned -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9y-KQbqi4

QR is a hack. No hate, I use it everyday

I do care about the FOSS aspect, not my business though


They can literally do this with every HWW.

Which already happened with the mk2 as I showed you.

And mk1.

You're so salty it hurts.


Why do you think MK4 has two SEcure elements now? Because one was safe enough?

It's a never ending rabbit hole of close source stuff.

I prefer stateless & QR.

Or USB and wipe.

You can repeat your garbage about QR & conveniently talk about NFC being able to be neutered...but you can't take away from the security benefits.

Sorry kid,


why would I be salty?
you don't even know me or where my expertise lies.

Focus.

You called out no innovation and I listed some for you. Only one hurting is you


Lol cope harder.


so your threat model is less severe, happy for you


My threat model takes into account people who act like experts but aren't.

https://bitbox.swiss/blog/coldcard-isolation-bypass/


Vulnerable AF, this wouldn't be acceptable if any other "brand" has this going after so many years in biz.

They didn't pay a single bounty, fuggin shady fucks.

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HOWEVER, PRIORITIZE THE PRO-ZAP CLIENTS


IF YOU ARE ONLY USING A SINGLE NOSTR CLIENT CONSIDER SPREADING YOUR WINGS AND TRYING OUT OTHERS.

SO MANY SOLID OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. ALL OFFERING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY OPEN SOURCE CONTRIBUTORS WORKING TIRELESSLY TO BUILD THEM OUT.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.


TBH, I’m nervous of clients nuking my follow list or relay list. Should I be? Have clients gotten better at that?


make sure you are utilizing something like nos2x or amber so you dont insert nsec directly into clients


Does Jason Lowery use primal?


Onward 🫡


Yes! Can’t wait for @satlantis


great advice 👌


and provide feedback on your favorite client features to the rest of nostr. bring your feedback to the market.


Seriously though. So grateful to have so many options and versatility. 🙏👏🏻💯