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chiefmonkey | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Will this not centralise the relays to the big 3? 

It seems counter intuitive because we don’t want to miss other people’s posts and we want everyone to see ours 

But we also want to decentralise 

Help… I need more education
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Vitor Pamplona | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 No, the 3 relays are the relays you have chosen to store your posts and to receive your notifications from other users. They can be anything you want them to be. Every client should connect directly to them to download your posts. 

The receiver will pick one of them to download posts from, so make sure ALL of your posts are there in ALL of them at ALL times. Meaning... Pick good relays. 

This is for the outbox relays only. Other relay lists might want more or less depending on each use case.
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chiefmonkey | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 If the 3 relays actually relayed my data onto many other relays then I’d understand 

But if they don’t do that then the people I want to see my posts will  have to have these 3 relays in their outbox right? 

Sorry I’m not quite understanding it so dont feel the need to reply 

What I can see though is that there is a massive incentive to run your own relay (off a node or vps) so that you have true data sovereignty AND you (or major content producers/communitues) can then prompt people to subscribe to your relay
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Vitor Pamplona | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 They don't relay your data to other relays. They just store it, like a regular relay would. 

However, your followers will connect directly to them, regardless of your followers relay setup. That's how the outbox model works. It doesn't use fixed relay lists. The relay list is dynamically assembled from a super set of relays from everyone you follow.
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chiefmonkey | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Without knowing that (and pretend I'm a normie) I am inclined to just use the biggest names I recognise like damus and I am also going to include any paid relay because I'm assuming they're going to do a better job than a free service 

Lastly (as a normie) I'm inclined to simply copy the same three relays from the outbox list to the inbox list because I don't understand the difference 

I'm only half being serious here (playing devils advocate) because I do appreciate what you are trying acheive but as a user the app is really making me think... 

I just want to set it and forget it... I'd be happy if this was automated for me 

I've paid for nostr.wine so I'm just going to put them in every section of that relay setup page 1st then damus second and another big name 3rd 

Not too sure if thus Feedback useful to you but I hope it helps
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Vitor Pamplona | 17 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 That's awesome. Nostr.wine is great for an Outbox relay but doesn't really work as Inbox, since it charges to post. People sending you replies, zaps, likes, etc will have to pay for Nostr.wine for it to accept their posts. 

But the others work, you can use nos.lol, damus or nostr.mom as Inbox. 

For PRIVATE Inbox, where your DMs go, you can use auth.nostr1.com or inbox.nostr.wine (another payment) to keep your DMs VERY private. Or just add nos.lol or nostr.mom to make it less private, but allow Amethyst to provide DM notifications.