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db | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 Real freedom! 

Freedom tech that can’t be stopped (relays)

Freedom of speech (no central authority)

Freedom to be who you want(no kyc)

Freedom to interact with who/what I want (no algorithms)
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Algorithms are on the way, but not imposed (I think)
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The relay devs stopped making the relays lol
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 It's going to be a dark part, and this is where clients and relays are going to start to differentiate themselves with respect to the competition... in addition to how they handle moderation... yes, we could easily fall into another Twitter
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Thethird0cnzo | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Por ahora esto no me preocupa. Definitivamente es algo en que fijarse... Pero dudo que sea convierta en gran problema.
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 No creo que todos los devs conviertan su cliente en un nuevo twitter, por eso es importante la descentralizacion
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Look at the great moderation polices coming to some relays 

https://nostrify.dev/policy/all#regexpolicy
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Everyone is not going to be committed to freedom of expression, but it's normal, I knew it was going to happen... each time some are going to become more censorious instead of leaving it to the users' decision... it is normal that it happens
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You need some kinda censorship otherwise spam and CSAM can destroy a relays. Nostrs free4all decisions was very dumb and shows that nobody building the software understands system administration
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I can think of fleeting ideas but I don't know how difficult they would be to implement... in the same way there is always the option of nuking the relay, although it is the last alternative... really today I can't think of anything concrete for that problem
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Competing tech to nostr allows you to handle these types of situations easily without nuking your local node or community for 1 bad actor.

Nostr now  is a open notepad file to the world that anyone can write to.  Jb55 of damus created an issue on strfry because his node was getting spammed and needed had to dump the db and do weird hacky shit 

This open design just dont work in reality
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am | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I have to read more about this part and listen to other devs, you also commented on something similar a few days ago and it also left me thinking
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yes..nobody is listening to me.
The ditto relay is actually designed correctly and built for scale.  Not ready yet
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k. | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 How is it different?
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Ditto is built like the Fediverse on the backend  and has administrative controls . Soapbox is the webui. A proven modern web interface
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k. | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 That jb retard kept going on and on about how you shouldn't be able to delete things, I honestly think he's actually retarded.
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verita84 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Yes and he said postgres was not good for nostr lol

Mastodon, fedi has million of users on postgres
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db | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 No algos is a feature not a bug