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 Even if I can send a payment using a traditional lightning payment invoice? 
 is that to the same node ? 
 It’s the same machine, two separate nodes. 
 i mean, is the target of the payment you're paying the BOLT11 invoice to the same as the one you're paying the BOLT12 invoice to (so is the route the same in both cases?) 
 No, paying from Strike App, to Bolt12 QR. 
 ohhhh i get it now
you're paying your own core lightning node using the BOLT12 invoice, from Strike and that doesn't work, while you can send (also from Strike i guess) using an BOLT11 invoice

that's strange, i have no idea why really

is the channel between your two nodes balanced? 
 the only other thing i can think of is that the LND node acting as gateway is somehow interfering with BOLT12 communication but i have no idea if that's possible, it seems unlikely, i don't know enough about the internal implementation to be sure 
 No the channel is not balanced but it shouldn’t need to be. My node that originated the bolt12 qr just needs the inbound liquidity to receive. That’s why I tested a standard lightning payment request as well, which went through as expected. Idk either of since this is my first time playing with Bolt12. Hoping someone here has some idea about what’s going on. Thanks