that is pretty much what i am saying....it just needs to be easier until everything becomes easier than easier.....to scale, you are trying to bring over people that are so used to traditional social media platforms. They need a super beginner setting....ideally the key signer should be guiding you on your own private relay and free/paid relays eventually. The clients should only be the room you party in. 

I really believe Key Signers need more responsibilities for the individual. But that is my idealistic world. 

I would like to be able to run my own relay, set my own relays on my key signer, and have multiple nsecs for both private and professional all on my device, while being able to log into various clients and apps and not have all my features go wonky because primal has this set up and this client has that set up as default and this is from that country....

i believe it isn't consistent and the focus should be the key signers.   

 What's a key signer? Might be something I already know of, but I'm still getting used to nostr terminology. 

 when you come to nostr, you get a set of keys, one is private and one is public....

the problem is people are plugging their private key into all different clients and apps...

this is a no-no

so there are key signers or extensions that safeguard your keys and sign into clients and apps for you. 

All the newbies are told to go to Primal, Damus, or Amethyst. And they are creating accounts this way, which I think is bad news.  

 Which key signers do you use? 

 i use android and windows.

On my cell phone I use Amber
On my desk top I use Nostr Connect I believe. 

It would be nice if I could use one on all my devices.

Now for apple and IOS, I heard there are things in development. And some options but I am not familiar yet with that.  

 Thanks!👍 

 Can you send me a link to Amber? 

 get the Nostr App store first, i downloaded the APK for zap.store and then once i had their app store on my android phone, i downloaded Amber through that...

on the zap.store ... i believe you have to go to the github to get the apk, i think the download button didn't do anything....

That is the hardest part, trying to find the APK or get it downloaded, but once it's on your phone you call find what you need 

 This is the way 

 I downloaded it and a few other clients last night before bed. Thanks!

So, I can run my own relay through Citrine? 

 Yup!  

 Do you do that? 

 I can't figure it out yet. I tried and didnt know if I was using it correctly and then when I deleted it, I nuked my whole follow list, I think  

 https://github.com/zapstore/zapstore/releases

i think thats the newest APK release