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 I think people put off reproduction as long as possible because it's the only decision they have to make, which is heavily weighed upon by their own mortality and physical decline.

Our lives are so comfortable and our life spans are so long, that we like to pretend that there is no inherent physiological advantage to the young. That the passage of time doesn't matter. That youth is forever. We extend and pretend.

44 year-old women are desperately claiming that 44 is the new 34, and 34 year-old women are claiming that 34 is the new 24.

No, 24 and 34 are where they have always been. 44 is the middle, same as it always was. You are now heading toward the end. Be happy, that you lived long enough, to grow old. Enjoy your decline.

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 That could be the case, probably it is at least in part.

Historically in your 40s you would be becoming a grandparent. 
 I would add to the aspects of comfort and longevity that society has largely pushed age and death aside. This allows us to indulge in the illusion of our own permanence for even longer. 
 most wealthy and educated societies have lower replacement rate .. no wonder they  get replaced !

making  babies is NOT only a survival (of race or nation)  thing ... it is the best accomplishment possible  - human brain has 1000x more parameters than chatGPT3 - and human body is the most versatile robotics  ... so ..  

I had rather train a baby than a computer  :-)  
 Well, I could see it as a time to have _more_ kids, but not to start having them.

Having a lot of offspring is also a retirement plan, of sorts, after all. 
 I humbly disagree, Stella

What if a kid you have in your 40s is special needs? Your whole life will go topsy-turvy

I don't think having kids is an experiment you should beyond 32-33 
 ok, now i'm really late to the market. sounds like catching a falling knife to have kids now.

so what's the purpose then if one is not a grandparent, for life beyond this? am i just a bump on a log? 

what are spinsters and bachelors supposed to do for society 
 I don't think biological goals are the only purpose to life, or even the highest purpose. We're all here to worship God through our efforts, and work out our salvation "with fear and trembling".

I see marriage as the most-common vocation, but there are other vocations. I'm saying the opposite: if marriage is your vocation, that you are called to, then take it seriously and focus on it. Don't put it on the backburner or on your To-Do list. 
 Thank you, sounds like wisdom  
 I humbly disagree, Stella

What if a kid you have in your 40s is special needs? Your whole life will go topsy-turvy

I don't think having kids is an experiment you should beyond 32-33 
 ok, now i'm really late to the market. sounds like catching a falling knife to have kids now.

so what's the purpose then if one is not a grandparent, for life beyond this? am i just a bump on a log? 

what are spinsters and bachelors supposed to do for society 
 I don't think biological goals are the only purpose to life, or even the highest purpose. We're all here to worship God through our efforts, and work out our salvation "with fear and trembling".

I see marriage as the most-common vocation, but there are other vocations. I'm saying the opposite: if marriage is your vocation, that you are called to, then take it seriously and focus on it. Don't put it on the backburner or on your To-Do list. 
 Thank you, sounds like wisdom  
 ok, now i'm really late to the market. sounds like catching a falling knife to have kids now.

so what's the purpose then if one is not a grandparent, for life beyond this? am i just a bump on a log? 

what are spinsters and bachelors supposed to do for society 
 I don't think biological goals are the only purpose to life, or even the highest purpose. We're all here to worship God through our efforts, and work out our salvation "with fear and trembling".

I see marriage as the most-common vocation, but there are other vocations. I'm saying the opposite: if marriage is your vocation, that you are called to, then take it seriously and focus on it. Don't put it on the backburner or on your To-Do list. 
 Thank you, sounds like wisdom