I will look about Orania. I like examples.
I can't speak for the US either. nostr:nprofile1qqsqdzwltpr635ehdzfd52tz947qlhq77x2c7j7yguwep9n258k2nuspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qg7waehxw309ahx7um5wgkhqatz9emk2mrvdaexgetj9ehx2ap0vqtr53 can. And btw thanks, the beave, for another nice discussion. 

 I have not heard about Orania either! This will be interesting. 

You're welcome. I very much appreciate your perspective as I know you've considered things a great deal.