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 I really need to figure out installing umbrel so I can set up a pihole absolutely never see ads on any of my devices. 

#ihateads #roku #stopforcingadsonme 
 If you do get it set up, I can attest to pihole's good quality.

I use the Stephen Black hosts list and some Blocklist Project lists. 
 Very good! Thanks for the feedback and pointers.  
 Pihole good - you don't need umbrel to run it. I've had PiHole running on a raspi zero since they were actually $5 chips. 
 Yes, but... 

I'm not going to buy a bunch of PIs to run specific things. I kinda absolutely hate that, plus, I don't know enough networking stuff to manage the 5+ I would need to do various things. Nor do I want to learn.  
 lol pihole fucked up my ability to login to my both of my home network routers… 
 Oh geez...  
 Yeah this is why I like to run ip blockers on the actual Machines that need protection & not on the network level… 
 I still have a lot to learn. Ugh.  
 Yeah so do I even tho I have years of experience running ip blockers  
 One of my favorite things back in the day was using Adblock and ip blockers to turn free pandora radio into ad free and no limits lol  
 Ah fair enough, and generally agree. I read your note as if that was all you wanted umbrel for. 
 Oh. Nope. Not at all.