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 @3ddab33a do you consider Proxmox “a cloud”? Because that’s what I meant here. I rarely do any heavy lifting on the arm stuff with virtualization because the tooling doesn’t really do the job well enough. 
 @cbf0362a ah no, I mean public cloud.

And I use VMs for CI/testing, often on the road. So when I want to build and test stuff that will run on my clusters, I want to do it local.