Oddbean new post about login | logout Two Qs for ya about Monero 1. Are there any Monero wallets in FDroid? (i couldn't find any). 2. How do you suggest getting coins without going through a centralized exchange? I looked into the protocol years ago and had to rely on cryptographers for the zero knowledge proofs because I don't grok that math (at least, not yet). I like the privacy claims, and would be happy to give it another go if it's usable.
2. Atomic swap on a dex from Bitcoin. Long term privacy might not be as good as lightning so don’t do illegal stuff until you understand that better than I do, which maybe you do idk
Monero has a tried and tested threat model and secure design. In Lightening, everyone always knows the recipient node. In Monero, no one knows anything. Like anything security related it's never perfect and vulns pop up but by design it is very good for privacy. The main way Monero transactions are unmasked is by sharing the same UTXO between CeX's, so if you must use a CeX, churn your coins (send to yourself to make a new UTXO). That's about it. DNM admins and vendors trust their freedom to this and the smart ones with good OPSEC have been operating for many years. I would love to see Lightning support the same level of privacy but it's still early for LN on the privacy front.
Yeah, I didn’t know the CeX unmasking thing. AFAIK, “no one knows anything” isn’t quite true. They don’t know anything yet haha. As of 2020 Monero was vulnerable save public address extract sees later (post quantum) attacks, whereas lightning as a sender may be safer since your data isn’t as available in the long term (it’s not on-chain). Maybe monero is post quantum now?
1. i recommend monero(.com) wallet vers by cake, for xmr only. get the apk on github https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/releases
2. check these out → https://stackwallet.com → https://localmonero.co/ → https://agoradesk.com/ → https://bisq.network/ → https://trocador.app/en/ → https://coincards.com/us/ → https://cakepay.com/ → https://anonshop.app/ → https://proxysto.re/en/index.html sorry, no time to edit 🙃
Another great one is https://exch.cx although they often get their XMR liquidity wiped out so timing is key. https://kycnot.me is a great resource too.
You might need the IzzyOnDroid repo (you should use it anyway) but here you go, I use this all the time for certain purchases via Tor markets: https://www.monerujo.io/
I use monerujo wallet ( https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet ). I bought some monero on robosats, and i hear bisq has decent liquidity.
1. All these wallets are on FDroid, can add their repository, or have the APKs available on their githubs. Also all open-source and self-custodial. https://cakewallet.com/ https://www.monerujo.io/ https://stackwallet.com/ Anonero ***Tor only http://anonero5wmhraxqsvzq2ncgptq6gq45qoto6fnkfwughfl4gbt44swad.onion/ Mysu ***Tor only http://rk63tc3isr7so7ubl6q7kdxzzws7a7t6s467lbtw2ru3cwy6zu6w4jad.onion/ 2. No-KYC p2p methods to acquire Monero Fiat -> Monero https://localmonero.co/ https://bisq.network/ https://learn.robosats.com/ Bitcoin -> Monero (atomic swaps) https://unstoppableswap.net/ https://code.samourai.io/wallet/comit-swaps-java/-/releases ***Still in beta [short tutorial: https://tube.monero.im/w/aBqiCQUARipWGi72FAPgY5] Crypto -> Monero (atomic swaps) https://basicswapdex.com/ Crypto -> Monero (***centralized instant swap aggregators, but no-KYC, no-javascript, and tor sites available) https://trocador.app/ https://orangefren.com/ https://intercambio.app/
OK you two, now you've gone and done it. I now have a monero markdown file in my personal notes. I've started putting links in there as I read them. If you see me add an XMR address, you'll know I've successfully got set up and am giving Monero its day in court.
Well, now I'm curious. You've had some time with it apparently. So, what is the judge's verdict from its day in court?
Oh dip, someone found an old post on nostr. Achievement unlocked. I feel like things fly by here so fast and then they hang around but [almost] nobody ever looks at them. Anyway, I got a wallet and put it in my profile and that's it. No tips. Haven't tried to trade anything for XMR. Pretty antitclimatic.
Makes sense. Nostr is pretty lightning dominated right now. Sent you a little something. There's a Nostr client being worked on right now for Monero that is Amethyst-based. Should be out sometime this week based on recent comments. https://bounties.monero.social/posts/94/42-349m-nostr-client-for-monero There's also a prototype web client: https://anarkio.codeberg.page/nostril/#/home/
running cake on calyx. so far so good.
You can install Obtanium from Github and use that to install other packages from Github. https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium/releases/tag/v1.0.0
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