Oddbean new post about login | logout The Spotify model. They annoy you with ads into buying the subscription lol.
Yup.
They are free to use someone else's trial offer. 🤷♀️ They just can't use any offer more than once.
well, if it gets tied to npub and ip address, yep there will be lots of thinking happening i think because we are now blessed with the visitation of spammers which means nostr is winning
Any permanently-free relay will have to throttle or end up full of garbage and spam.
yeah, everyone is all of a sudden going to understand what me, cloudfodder, mazin and semisol have been saying for a very long time real world network conditions
Yup. They can't just scale up a free service to cover millions -- eventually, even billions! -- of people at peak performance. That's a ridiculous expectation. Free-to-use software can make sense. Write once, run anywhere. It's a document you can copy. Free-to-use services is literally not a thing.
yeah, nostr's architecture will make scaling large scale relay deployments easy too, probably can build em out of lots of small relays with relay coordinator/proxies around them
The updated filter.nostr.wine is extremely fast for me. They must have servers spannung the globe, or something. theforest.nostr1.com is also extremely fast
there can also be free limited trials and people can beg and earn their subs
Might be a way to work for a relay, as well. 🤔
well, contributing data in some way can have value, telemetry could give you a better tier than limited free level
An easy one would be feedback. Fill out a survey or bug report once per month to renew access, and that helps the developers and operators stay on top of things.
yeah, this would be a great way to get testers too, would be a big thing for a project that combines a client and relay together as an integrated package... primal is already going in this direction but i think i may be involved in such a project in the near future, fingers crossed (we want to do a slack/gsuite killer) initial reactions to the idea of infrastructure all being paid have been very indignant at first but they will all get it when they have to take down their free server because it's suddenly costing them a lot and the penny might actually drop