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Stuart Bowman | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +6 
 > Feel moderation should happen at the relay level rather than at the message level

You are 100% correct. Building communities on top of the protocol is too complicated. Communities should be based on relays, like how nostr was supposed to work all along.

Me and @hzrd149 are building this right now.
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VelvetBlue_art | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You can build it but if it censors people, no one has to use it.
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Stuart Bowman | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 If it censors people, you can fork it
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verita84 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The problem is that how can you ever get discovered if your relay or nip is being on a shared distributed block list. Nostr is still very centralized. There are a few big relays that everyone needs.  

Nostr will be just like every competing product, users will  cling to a few big relays and the little relays will get the shaft.
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Stuart Bowman | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 > Nostr is still very centralized. There are a few big relays that everyone needs.

Agree, and one of the reasons for making communities based on relays is to massively increase the total number of relays. Instead of 10,000 communities using 10 relays, there should be 10,000 communities using at least 10,000 relays.

I think non-community-specific relays will still be useful to bootstrap the discovery of other relays.
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verita84 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 shameless plug, my relay wss://relay.poster.place
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Stuart Bowman | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Cool, what are you running, Stirfry?
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verita84 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yup. That seems to be the best for now.....Nostr really needs to improve their relays....they won't scale
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sandwich | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 Also, not all relays are communities, as there is other stuff.
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Michael J | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Looking forward to this!
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ike | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 you're doing great things