Oddbean new post about login | logout So...Nostr moderated communities seem to have died a quiet death.
Too much work. I've given up.
I even have to moderate my own posts to my own community. 😭
Feel communities will find better usage when there are stronger incentives for community themed relays and where participation in a community relay comes some responsibility for mantainence/curatiom of the signal quality.
Yeah, I tried to do that, with mine, but having to accept each post (instead of each poster) is too tedious.
Feel moderation should happen at the relay level rather than at the message level. Whitelist only relay (paid, invite, apply, etc) and if you are a noted bad actor - relay operator (with ideological alignment to the community) kicks you off.
> Feel moderation should happen at the relay level rather than at the message level You are 100% correct. Building communities on top of the protocol is too complicated. Communities should be based on relays, like how nostr was supposed to work all along. Me and @hzrd149 are building this right now.
You can build it but if it censors people, no one has to use it.
If it censors people, you can fork it
The problem is that how can you ever get discovered if your relay or nip is being on a shared distributed block list. Nostr is still very centralized. There are a few big relays that everyone needs. Nostr will be just like every competing product, users will cling to a few big relays and the little relays will get the shaft.
> Nostr is still very centralized. There are a few big relays that everyone needs. Agree, and one of the reasons for making communities based on relays is to massively increase the total number of relays. Instead of 10,000 communities using 10 relays, there should be 10,000 communities using at least 10,000 relays. I think non-community-specific relays will still be useful to bootstrap the discovery of other relays.
shameless plug, my relay wss://relay.poster.place
Cool, what are you running, Stirfry?
Umm. No..block what you don't want to see. That's how NOSTR works. This isn't silicon valley towers of censorship.
Switch to Coracle, I don't enforce any moderation
Well, no, I guess everyone would have to switch over for that to work. The required moderation thing was such a bad idea.
Yeah, it sort of slammed the brakes on the initial enthusiasm. Probably need a "big change", to relaunch with something more like bulletin boards, I think, to get people motivated again.
I want to do something like old-school internet forums based around community relays. Maybe that's the next project. Use the outbox model to boost discoverability on other relays.
Yeah, communities really deserve a dedicated client with a special viewer, like a bulletin board. You have like 8 other projects, tho. 😂
I'll add it to the list 🤣
@Stuart Bowman is taking them in a very exciting new direction with his Satellite nodes https://fountain.fm/episode/ksAfGHgXEwE32QME1oGR
Yes, communities will rise again!
