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 We are calling it web of trust but it's just pulling web of follows.
Trust feels like it should be something different. 
 Yeah, it solves for most of the spam, but I'm not actively participating. Got rid of all of my follows and created a "trusted npub" list, as a controller for my personal relay, that only contains npubs whose stuff I read or lurkers who are attested.

In other words, only npubs I actually trust. 😅  
 A lost like that makes more sense than just follows. 

Thinking about lists and how to arrange follows has made me remember Google circles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUywKEtXX2c
 
 Yes, @captain ☦️ compromised was talking to me about those circles and it got me thinking. 
 so authenticated relays with access determined by membership in the circle? 
 I'm still thinking about this. I guess relay-based  communities are the new circles.

Do I even need a list event, for this? I can just use the whitelist on the relay, but then the list isn't publicized and I wouldn't be able to auto-update the relay list, just by adding someone to the client list. I'm using the client list as a controller, basically, but it's a redundant list.

Can the relay publish the whitelist, upon request? Could there be direct manipulation of the relay list from a client?

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 So one relay per circle?
Is this similar to communities in ditto? 
 Ditto communities aren't 1:1 with a relay. 
 I see. Thanks. 
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 I don't call it Web of Trust anymore.  I call it "friends of friends".  And I don't trust friends of friends, but I do expect that they probably aren't spammers.  If anybody is caught following a spammer, that can be found out and they can be unfollowed. 
 Is there a nip to report to a server which spam that I got from it, so the admin can have tools to 
a) delete it if needed
b) Block the sender from using the relay?

 
 You can send a NIP-56 defined 1984 report to the pubkey in the relay's NIP-11. 
 Nice! I hope clients will implement this soon 
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