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anonymous | 4 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 Can you give me some examples of where the nation-wide possession of guns have resulted in a more peaceful/passive suppression of tyranny?
I'm curious because I only ever see the point made that can be summarized as ".. with weapons at least you have a fighting chance against tyranny."
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Alan Siefert | 4 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 It’s not peaceful. When the people have guns and shoot back it’s civil war. But civil war is better than tyranny.
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LibertyFarmer | 4 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 The United states.
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wymike | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You say that but the “land of the free” is not as free as it once was and so far I haven’t seen the possession of guns limiting the erosion of freedoms.
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LibertyFarmer | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I completely disagree. 60 years ago blacks had state mandated segregation. 30 years ago people got arrested for bad behavior at concerts.

Pornography and music was trying to be outlawed federally in the 90s.

There are now dozens of states with constitutional carry.


We have virtually absolute free speech, the only place I the world that has it.

I’ll take living in 2024 over any year in history.

Perfect? No. There are problems, sure,  but the US federal government isn’t out in the street with their troops shooting people for protesting.
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wymike | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Genuine questions: 
Did these change because everyone has the right to own a gun?
Did civil rights activists improve the situation for black Americans through the use of guns?
Was the federal government stopped for outlawing pornography and music with guns?

I’m just not convinced that having the right to a gun is the panacea that those that are pro gun believe it to be.
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LibertyFarmer | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yes.

Yes.

Yes.
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LibertyFarmer | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I don't particularly give a shit if you agree or not. 

My father saved my life using a firearm when I was little from 2 robbers with guns.  I will die before giving them up.
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mrecheese 🧀 | 4 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 All those gov/mil riding in open top trucks would be in bad shape if that were rural Texas. 

They would stay the hell out of town if half the Venezuelans in those elevated positions had a rifle.
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Upgrayedd | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 have you heard of the United States of America?