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 https://obscuravpn.io/ 
 So important. 
 Another vpn? I’m tired. 
 Waitlist accepts nostr npubs?

You have my attention  
 👀 
 Right ✊ 
 Poolside with cocktails... smiling harder. THANK YOU SER! I will sign up tomorrow with a clear mind. XOXO Nada Fux 
 Love to see it 🔥🔥🔥 
 how do we know this isn't a honeypot 
  https://image.nostr.build/6581690c543d1fa3eb5541dd0dda14d2a62b72c2bf8709d670fa696f89f04232.jpg  
 Wake me up when they’ve actually done this 
 I was needlessly skeptical, looks promising but would like to see them open source their software and release reproducible app builds first before making a judgement on them 
 *rightfully skeptical, needlessly pessimistic 
 That was fun to watch that 🤣🙏✊ 
 Nice. They use Nostr @obscura 🫂🤙🏻 
 Big promises, but glad they will open source and take ln sats. Hope it pushes the others to do the same 
 Great 
 Oooh interesting thanks 
 🥳 Thanks for the shoutout Jack! Exciting few months ahead for Obscura! 
 Je me disais avoir lu la note de jack , puis regardé votre profil.  Bienvenue dans cette case close 🗽🫂 
 Actually looks very promising, interested in finding out more about "bring your own VPN". And you can get notifications via nostr, a true sign of being forward thinking https://i.nostr.build/jYggj.png  
 How do obscura set up the 3rd party blind relays (and who are they?) 
 I'm wondering about the same thing. 
 Seems really promising, but it May not be disclosed at this time (or maybe I am just stupid) 
 With increasing prices of cyber protocols for  security, protection, and less data breach. Any implementation to improve or protect with an illustrated vpn would be ideal. 👍  
 😍 
 That's what they all say
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 Looks interesting. Is Carl on Nostr? Curious thoughts on Safing.io Portmaster SPN, which is similar and immune to timing attacks if using community nodes @obscura  
 Waitlist accepts nostr npubs, they will open source and they take sats… this is the way to go 👏

Only thing to add is that I wish they would consider VLESS as WireGuard is getting restricted in many areas, making it using the places that need it the most. 🙏 
 🤦‍♀️ this is why I need an edit option. 

Only going to add is that I wish they would consider VLESS as WireGuard is getting restricted in many areas, making it impossible to use in the places that need it the most. 🙏** 
 This will be revolutionary! 🤘🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎⚡️ 
 Interesting! 
 Cool 😎 thanks for sharing.

I'm testing many VPNs recently,

If God will soon going to write short top 10 VPNs post on Nostr.  
 Wasn't this coming soon like a year ago? 
 hmm 
 
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 same as mullvad no? 
 It's an interesting turn when you first realize that almost all of the time it isn't important WHO pays for something, so long as it WAS paid for. This idea to be obvious when we paid for everything using bits of paper stamped with serial numbers, but you couldn't send those over a modem so we switched to an eventually consistent credit based system.  Credit requires trust, and trust requires identity, and now we just take it for granted that every payment has to have an identity. But not with Lightning. 
 Shout out to @otk for the web design 
 @b78cf3e8 (I need to learn how to link people on nostr) 
 🫡❤️🙏 
 this is plainly false. 

VPN providers cannot see https-encrypted traffic like on chase.com

Not a good way to start off your business - with misleading claims about competitors. 

https://m.primal.net/Hjzp.png  
 This isn't the traffic though? Many (not all) VPN providers store customer information and they know your IP and the IP you're visiting. 
 When you use a VPN, you merely send all your traffic through your ISP to another entity, and that entity gets to see all your traffic.

I've always assumed 95% of VPN services are 3 letter honeypots. I refuse to use. 
 No they don’t. Your ISP doesn’t get to decrypt https packets. That’s not how the internet works. At most they see the domain name, but none of the personal details like the website suggests. 
 I thought Orbot already did this, being a VPN over Tor. 
 Just got on the wait-list... 

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 opinions and thoughts? @Ava 
 Waiting to hear back from the dev before testing.

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 I'm still missing information too 🤓 
 @jack, how would you compare Obscura VPN to Mullvad VPN and IVPN?

- Mullvad VPN accepts Bitcoin on-chain, cash and Monero.

- IVPN accepts Bitcoin on-chain, lightning, cash and Monero.

Here’s a great interview @MartyBent did with Viktor from IVPN on @TFTC (RSS Feed) 

“Join Marty as he sits down with Viktor from IVPN to discuss online privacy and the surveillance traps set by online companies, including most VPNs.“ 

https://fountain.fm/episode/bWPsHti8xbgHh2LJbdxM 
 Looks interesting, more options is always nice, but you can already do what Obscura does with any VPN that supports multi-hop like Mullvad and IVPN. So I'm not really sure what the hype is about. Anyone know? 
 It’s most likely some kind of bias. Ownership bias? 
 Apparently the difference with Obscura is you use different VPN providers for the additional hop. So you don't have to trust Obscura or any single VPN.

"How is Obscura different from my VPN’s multihop?

Multihop VPNs claim they’re more secure because they direct your traffic through multiple servers. But the same provider still controls all of the servers, which means they can correlate your identity with your traffic.

In Obscura, we only control the first hop and use blind third-party relays for the exit hop. The result is that we can never correlate your identity with your traffic as we don’t even see your traffic in the first place!"
 
 yeah, same opsec could be recreated having multi-vendor multi-hop wireguard tunnels, its even not so expensive. But more competition, better services at better prices I hope. 
 
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 https://m.primal.net/KXHT.jpg 

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