Oddbean

I’m seeing a lot of variations on “flirting and dating are too risky”. I’m seeing zero rebuttals showing “no it’s not”. https://i.poastcdn.org/81f3c8eb0cf38f0fa8b1b5f2ad4d9298de5aafd85eb518e45aa5c2a05cbb55e4.png

Again, they’re lying to you and conflating the risk to ALL men versus the risks for a normal-ish white guy and the brownoid collective. Still can be risky if you’re an awkward weirdo, but to pretend you have the same risk as Ranjesh the greasy dravidian is insane. But that’s exactly what they’ve gotten all the guys with. You all get that it’s never harassment if the guy’s hot, so you understand the principle, but you don’t clue into the fact that you can develop enough charm to achieve the same risk levels as chad.

I think part of the issue is a lot of (white) guys, even here, don't understand how attractive they are so they put themselves out there in a way that detracts anywhere up to 5 points off their attractiveness, which makes it so they can't pull off being retarded and hot. You need to pull out the big dick energy and as long as you aren't too retarded you can get away with anything and pull women like crazy.

Yeah this is why a good wingman is important. Women will cave to social pressure immediately. If you're into nerd old man shit like painting plastic robots and building model trains a woman WILL listen to you sperg about it and WILL think it's cool if your friend Chad Thundercock says you're a good dude with interesting hobbies.

I understand your theory, I’m saying that the article which articulates the problem doesn’t even bother trying a rebuttal. But this fear didn’t come from the article, it came from observing the last decade. Hot guys and chads got the #MeToo treatment too, this isn’t a brown problem. And the article is actually touching on the broader “risk”, spending a lot of money for nothing. The porn-sick guys basically say their OnlyFans, AI, and other whorish substitutes remove the risk of spending hundreds of dollars and getting a narcissistic flake who can’t even be a caring, non-sexual companion. That’s also not a brownoid problem, that’s universal to the modern dating pool. You don’t fix that buy boosting your self-confidence or being charming.

Guys need to realize that as low as you get in the stack, you still sit comfortably ahead of 40 to 60% of the “men” around you. Go to a college and look at the guys there, go to work and look at the office. As long as you aren’t obese, can crack a good joke, and make people enjoy being around you then you’re sitting way, WAY prettier than you realize. The risk isn’t the reason I quit cold approaches (except at work, where it’s usually the jealous hags overhearing you that report it, though I’ve never had issues doing so), it’s the fact they’re low-yield. You can say the payout isn’t worth it for the work required, that still holds true for us. But guys like to focus way too much on the risk of dating, and….eh. I’ve had exes try to pull that before, as long as you’re able to talk frankly and charm your way out of things you’re good. So, SO much of this is solved with “be likable”. Seriously demolishes these obstacles like you wouldn’t believe. Guys somehow can make each other laugh online, but IRL? Suddenly it’s an impossible request

MRAs also had the wrong approach, probably for the same reasons they got into that situation: they were too nice and tried to play by the rules, becoming a grievance group. If all your life is getting fucked with by some passive aggressive family courts, you have to take extreme measures: become a soldier of fortune overseas, join some shady smuggling boat, become another town's homeless. Begging to see your kids won't make it better so instead of working extra, gotta become some obscure legend for them https://i.poastcdn.org/078458d72a9e2f456077e3394d09e6c8b964a91d63d036837a271a322458d8cf.jpeg