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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | export | reply | flag +3 
 is anybody working on recurring payments with bitcoin yet ? 

#AskNostr
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mhodl | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Mutiny’s got that
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 fr ?
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mhodl | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yeah to pay for mutiny plus. I think it’s just NWC that can auto approve payments monthly 

https://image.nostr.build/094e15c748a21092121ed5f7b9eb65091e47972c67925789acd1184114939465.jpg
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 So once the external service requests their monthly payment, it’s auto approved if you have it authorized and automatically pays the invoice ? πŸ‘€ 

& is this a Mutiny + feature or free tier
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mhodl | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Well  the mutiny plus subscription is the only one currently doing that but yeah. Setting up NWC is free I’m pretty sure
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Thank you Harv πŸ™ really appreciate it!!
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mhodl | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 No prob!
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TheSpiritualMachine | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 You mean like LN
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 nah like patreon for example, authorize once n never again
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ΰ² _ΰ²  Π²Ο…Π²Π²β„“Ρ”z | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I don't think I'd keep sats in that account...ever...

Imagine you forget to cancel a subscription, and your sats are gone anyways....

😬
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I mean that’s just poor management on your end, but recurring payments is needed for a lot of different services..
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ΰ² _ΰ²  Π²Ο…Π²Π²β„“Ρ”z | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Agreed.

There needs to be an easy way to manage my subscription wallet, cold wallet, and LN wallet all in one place....
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TheSpiritualMachine | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Nostr wallet connect is already a thing no?
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 yes but I only use it to send one tap zaps, how can I do recurring payments with a one time authorization using NWC ? I genuinely do not know how
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TheSpiritualMachine | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 DIY write a script or even cornychat.com has V4V in settings you can set sats/hr or other value to auto invoice and pay at the rate you configure Alby even does it.
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I guess what I was looking for was a wallet that had this feature for the non devs nostr:note1d2dp2lw3fguu2266uvf5nqwnn49qqs6jlydustw5cn4ftkam4q7s9f73mt
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β‚Ώloggingβ‚Ώitcoin | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You can also use oaknode on Umbrel, but you need your own lightning channel.
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β‚Ώloggingβ‚Ώitcoin | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Check out the backstage pass on highlighter.com
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TheSpiritualMachine | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 πŸ‘€
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Don't β‚Ώelieve the Hype 🦊 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 NWC allows that. NIP88 does that.
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 fr ? LN or on-chain ?
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Don't β‚Ώelieve the Hype 🦊 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 LN πŸ‘€
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Don't β‚Ώelieve the Hype 🦊 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I was running a DVM with that for 2 months. Subscribe with NWC string, pay daily, weekly or monthly via NWC. Cancel via DVM or by revoking the NWC string.
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 πŸ‘€ ok that’s prettty siiick

guess i need to study up more on NWC
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Don't β‚Ώelieve the Hype 🦊 | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I will bring the DVM back to try it out. I just removed it because I made the DVM free πŸ˜…
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Ζ‘Κ‰Ν«cΝ§ΠΊΝ­ΞΉΝͺΞ·Ν£ 𝕡𝖔𝖍𝖓 ⚑️⚑οΈ... | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I think alby is working on that
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kenCode@Agorise | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 In July, yes. Recurring and "streaming" payments on livestreams and patreon-style Creator monetization. This month's Peerhub v9 release is just the basic nostr integration tho, then zaps, then the above. Poco a poco as we say here :)
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Is there any docs so I can read more ?
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kenCode@Agorise | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yep, but right now the docs are all centered around the hive blockchain and fediverse, known currently as "hive-tube". This v9 release is a total rebrand though to "Peerhub" with a different repo on npmjs, new website and everything. So around the 15th of this month I will be posting all the new links here on nostr, hive, mastodon, twatter etc and I hope to get onto a couple podcasts to talk about all this more and why getting networks talking to each other is so important.
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quentin | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Because of its architecture it is somewhat difficult since the custody and therefore the sovereignty of the money belongs to each individual. A smart contract could work, but the incentive to pay for a service is that you can unsubscribe whenever you want.

Ultimately, recurring payments are now controlled by the individual, there is no such thing as a bank draft in Bitcoin, or at least as far as I know!
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ContrarianAgrarian | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Alby has that. I don’t remember how I did it  but I have it set to send 21 sats to two different developers each day
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 prob NWC that’s what everyone has been telling me so far
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ContrarianAgrarian | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 That sounds familiar. Tbh, I should probably log back in just to check on things πŸ˜…
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Marks | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 https://blog.mutinywallet.com/solving-subscriptions-on-bitcoin-one-zap-at-a-time/
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π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @OpenSecret gib this man a raise!! 

Thank you sm Marks! πŸ™
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Marks | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 πŸ˜† I didn’t write the blog post πŸ‘‰ @Paul
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MachuPikacchu | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Check out BIP 352 - silent payments. You can share a single code and each payment made to it is to a new address. Great for privacy and also more convenient.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0352.mediawiki
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It's Moro! | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 zapplepay.com
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Vic | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Any service wanting recurring payment should support NWC. Then you'd connect that app (with alby, mutiny, boardwalk cash etc), specifying amount for monthly budget and creating connection string to use. Each subscription should have its own connection string to support per app/service revocation.