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Relay purge request
yes saves relays data + good for users privacy
💯 even if not guaranteed. We can refine until it’s good enough most of the time
This is only reliable on a Discord/Slack style client that treats each relay separately
I was told relays can or do support this. So… we don’t need perfection and we can call out relays who don’t honor requests and ditch them
How will the client know what relays to send the delete request to? People can broadcast your note to any relay they want.
Deletion is a centralized trust model
We have expire spec
Let’s do it 🚀
Need to trust relays to delete though...
Impossible
Impossible or sounds difficult so I don’t want to try?
Should be working today with expiration tag (when clients/relays support it). Question is if the attached content should be deleted as well - we could build blob expiration into blossom. @hzrd149
It might be a little difficult to add expiration to blob since there is no single event or thing that represents the across the network. the only thing I can think of is the server would be aware of 1063 events and any expiration tags on them
Delete should be used here to protect encrypted conversations. To compensate for the risk of encryption or private key theft. Vitor Pamplona may have a idea
How would this even be possible if it's all going through relays? Wouldn't all relays have to implement this for it to work? Am I being a dumbcunt? nostr:nevent1qqs9c0rt6ltnmdxcz76n324u7jhj70yuqkxwyy2r43grvk784e334cspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqx78pgq53vlnzmdr8l3u38eru0n3438lnxqz0mr39wg9e5j0dfq3qvzqqqqqqysts438
I would use this. It'd help with bloating. nostr:note1ts7xh47h8k6ds9a48z4tea909u7fcpvvugg58tzsxedu0tnrrt3qta9p3y
Thats your response to everything 🤣
Sure. From a pure information perspective. But realistically it’s a valid feature request. But not everyone wants Nostr to be a zero trust system. Some amount of trust is useful.
Even though you could use event deletion, It is still technically stored in relay's storage.
That's why people want walled gardens and better encryption. They'd rather have hardly any reach than no control. People want to own their data, and you don't own something, if you cannot control access to it.
When you put something on the internet where it is accessible to some then it could become accessible to all. People think they're in 'private' Discord servers, meanwhile there's a bot in the same server scraping everything. Similar thing would happen with a relay. https://www.404media.co/a-spy-site-is-scraping-discord-and-selling-users-messages/
Yes, but that can happen IRL, too. There is no full expectation of privacy, anyway, but there are more and less private places.
A private relay is only as private as the users and operator of the relay want it to be
When you put something on the internet where it is accessible to some then it could become accessible to all. People think they're in 'private' Discord servers, meanwhile there's a bot in the same server scraping everything. Similar thing would happen with a relay. https://www.404media.co/a-spy-site-is-scraping-discord-and-selling-users-messages/
Yes, but that can happen IRL, too. There is no full expectation of privacy, anyway, but there are more and less private places.
A private relay is only as private as the users and operator of the relay want it to be
