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 @c230d83f I do really dig this Phantasm album 
 @50b353e9 I can't think of much that sounds like that one... it is unique. You might like the Mass Psychosis "Face" demo which was re-released on a comp CD a few years back. 
 @c230d83f yeah, THIS I LOVE. Like the YT comments say, what production for 93!! Grimy and raw. Fantastic. Every DAY I hear some amazing stuff I haven't heard. Wow 
 @50b353e9 Originally recorded in 1991 that one, under a different name. 
 @c230d83f woww even OLDER 🤯 fantastic sound 
 @50b353e9 The amount of totally wild old school DM out there from that period is ludicrous. 
 @c230d83f a golden age. Loving to see a band here or there pick up the torch still, but there's a lot of sameness now. It's never the fancy production, either. It's the sound of the band and the songs. Does it every time. Stuff like the new Ectospire demo from this year. Same kind of lo-fi feel but I love it. Bog Body's demo from 2018 too 
 @50b353e9 I like some newer stuff. I don't wanna be like one of those "It was all better back then" guys, but the difference is that the bands were terraforming the sound back then. They're not doing that now (as much), they are working with templates. So that is why the essence feels different. I have heard some good stuff though (the first Neoandertals album is cool), no doubt! Both demos you mention sound good on cursory listen. Ectospire is very Swe-DM 
 @c230d83f I'm pretty picky 🤣 gonna check out Neoandertals - awesome