Oddbean new post about login | logout Do you have a link to the spec of kind20 events? 🥲
It’s a PR by @Vitor Pamplona
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1551
Thanks for sharing. If this is the way forward we should replace NIP93 events in the user gallery with this in Amethyst, for interoperability
Are they different? Galleries are selected. These ones are all the crap people post.
Ok I'm confused now. I'm also confused every kind1 with an image currently shows up in the gallery when it's using kind20 👀 is that because of alpha or is this the idea?
I think nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75sprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszynhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4esdp32r9 is also trying to make it work with kind1 clients, which I don't think it is a good idea. People don't want to mix the two generally.
But let's say it was using kind 20 only, I guess this would represent exactly what I intended to do with gallery entry events. Basically images you want to share and put in your profile gallery, and not every screenshot from every shitpost. It's a bit redundant to have 2 kinds for the same thing, I think. Just the way you create these currently in Amethyst is a bit different than actively posting a kind 20 event, like this client does. But it could be similar.
Kind 20 is for all the shitposts, all memes and things you want to share but might not want in your Gallery. To me they are very different.
Hm ok, I thought it was the other way round. I'm still confused an will observe what happens lol.
I guess my point is, I still think having consistent galleries around clients would be nice somehow.
Yeah, just been posting things to my Amethyst gallerie on the nostr:nprofile1qqsd6ejdteqpvse63ntf7qz6u9yqspp4z7ymt8094urzwm0x2ceaxxgprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qguwaehxw309a6xsetrd96xzer9dshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qgkwaehxw309ahx7um5wfjkc6t5v4ejummjvuhsffkx4f npub. No idea, if they show up anywhere else.
Can anyone see the gallery in their app, or is it just Amethyst? nostr:nevent1qqs9p5mklnxywtzcp88tqfs37fn5zngj75739d7eg8z4350cq25avzgpz3mhxw309akx7cmpd35x7um58g6rsd3e9upzplfq3m5v3u5r0q9f255fdeyz8nyac6lagssx8zy4wugxjs8ajf7pqvzqqqqqqys8v32t
I can see photos from my Kind 01 notes, in the Nostrudel and Slidestr galleries, but not the specific gallery notes.
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Under @Laeserin?
It's a special kind of note: 1163 https://i.nostr.build/ulWNcUMXTexz2O4K.png
I see this post, one picture of 7 images.
So, no gallery tab, or anything? Must just be Amethyst Hmm.
Just the one picture of the smaller pics. I'm not tech savvy, so I'm not sure if my own settings need to be changed.
No, I was just wondering if anyone else had it implemented.
I need a younger brain to implement anything! 😆
Just amethyst afaik
Kind of weird to include microblogging notes, but not curated gallery entries.
Hello. Is a kind 20 for instagram style image posts, where my intention is kind of creating a public gallery of aesthetic images? Vs attaching a meme or something contextual to a text note, like I would in an Amethyst post. Thanks.
It is to post whatever you want as image, like memes and so on. It doesn't need to be for your own gallery.
Ah sorry I didn't express that well. When I used Olas earlier I was seeing all my kind 1 image posts on my Olas profile, which I don't like as those images are usually related to the note and my expectation is to see them in a twitter-like app but not an instagram/flickr-like app. This is what Kind 20 is for, I think? Cheers.
Yeah, I think nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75sprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszynhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4esdp32r9 is trying to integrate the old stuff from kind 1 into the new client and that doesn't work because the images are an accessory to the text and not the main thing on kind 1s.
Yeah, there’s a fine balance; solely using kind:20 is hard because literally there was not a single kind:20 in any of the relays I checked; going forward it’ll be easier once we populate some content in it. I still think there’s a place for getting kind:1 with images for the general feed (not on the profile) if the kind 1 is the root.
How do you even do that? Which filter returns only kind 1s with images? I did it a while back for our image feed, but all I saw was meaningless images without any context. That essentially was why we ended up using nip94 instead. But I will switch amethyst images to kind 20 to help kick this off.
Awesome to hear! I literally just get the kind:1s and filter out the ones that don’t have an image URL, excluding gifs since those tend to be lower quality. I think there’s more heuristics that could be used like amount of text, root vs reply, etc, but I think ideally more clients would use kind:20 when the focus is the picture, I just don’t think that’s going to happen. I might end up allowing the user to filter for this; let’s see how it plays out.
Definitely a fine balance. I've noticed quite a few UI designer types saying their preferred platform for sharing/seeing new work is X. Maybe because that type of design work requires threads + text to properly explain, maybe because twitter-like apps engender better discussion, maybe none of the above. But I'd have guessed Instagram was the go-to for visuals, and been wrong. So different strokes for different folks. Looking forward to the real launch and seeing how it develops.
Kind 1s I think would help fill it out since so many post include just an image with short text+tags. Same with videos but only include those playable in the client. Always would recommend user toggle in the top of the feed for the kind of content to see like Boost had for Reddit back in the day.
Okay now I'm confused, too.. Wtf.. Need to rethink a lot for Lumina now.. wtf..
Somehow this never reached me :( Maybe that's what I needed for LUMINA.rocks ... #lumina
