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 What app are you changing your profile with? 

What app are you using yo verify changes? 
 changed with flockstr, didn't update, still isn't updated 

changed with primal; it updates

changes take a really super long time to propagate on njump 
 Which app(s) are you using to verify the change went through? 
 satellite.earth, nostrudel and primal  
 Are you QA King? 
 😅No. It is not trivial to reproduce about anything in nostr given all the permutations of app interactions - 1,000 nostr apps is approaching half a million app pairs. 

This is why I ask. 

If we have this info it becomes possible to debug.

In the mid to long run we have @sandwich @Arjen and others working on various angles on CI to where we automate the QA. 
 I know that. I was just tryin to figure out why you wanted 
to chase this so hard when its not clear to me some
Of these apps are maintained or not 
 I’m the nostrability product janitor. 
 
nostrability repo contains negative interoperability issues like the one you run into.

There are many of these.

If we dont systematically catalogue, these wont be fixed. If these are not fixed, the average normie big tech user who expects things to “just work” in app, and across apps will drop off.

Specifically the “hop” between apps is a user friction point. If the hop friction is too high, users wont bother with using the strength of nostr - many apps, and nostr will recede into obscurity. 

Now that I write this, there may be perpetually unmaintained apps. 

Maybe its worthwhile to catalog these to a high friction list to warn devs, and end users of potential for a crap experience. 
 Per fan’s request. 
 Fan as in fanquake? 
 Oh  I meant per Dan”s request. @WedgeSocial 
 I am a fan of both their work! good observation Hodl 
 This is a good strategy for public service.  But can be difficult
If the devs who are targets are not paying attention 
 I cannot guarantee human action of others, and I have been bringing up to the attention of devs various issues their app is involved with. 

Thus far, many devs have been receptive and worked together with their counterparties to resolve multi-app bugs, negative UX behaviors. https://image.nostr.build/6941ccc7bd3e54e2c05958756ff1818fd82ae550e8ad36dda5975cde9453cf0f.jpg https://image.nostr.build/a953542b1f42f250d8e3b0f354e8f3f0fe69d50b5f1ad36128f05f2d1835e685.jpg https://image.nostr.build/03c8f9f9ccb3059f8866d2ce779ad444b40430f7fff06dce00574c8bcc4cde6f.jpg  
 Yes that is because they are full time paid by grants and have lots of free time. Good for them. I am not so if i get spammed, all you will likely get is no response for a long time😅 
 I hear you. 

There are quite a few devs and other contributors who are active, and are not sponsored 
 Btw its an honor to bestow “QA king” if you’d like the title 😅 
 No titles, just want nostr to win, and make my ikigai. 
 #yestr 
 flockstr also has this annoying habit of autoplaying ancient vids i posted almost a year ago when i visit my profile.