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Yes, there is a chance Proton Wallet is a honeypot. Let's assume it is one: We are not their target audience. People who know no better already live in a honey pot. An opportunity to expose a taste of freedom tech to 100M+ users, shitcoin-free? That's massive. Most of them won't fall into the rabbit hole, but some of them will. Net positive. Just like our life paths are all different, our ways to understand bitcoin are too.
absolutely, no shitcoin, non-custodial, good documentation for newbies. Its great.
People need to realize that if you're reading this on Nostr, you are absolutely not the target audience.
It can be both a honeypot and a net positive. Better than gmail or hotmail (I assume). But swiss gov likely has a back door.
But it should be said. People should know that proton has been forced to give up info. Just thought an asterisk should be there.
Yes they have to comply with certain government warrants
Yes. What info did they give?
After a quick search: > The Swiss company sells itself on its privacy features, promising to let uses "take control" of their personal data. > But it had been legally obliged to collect data from an account said to be linked to a "climate activist" arrested by French police, ProtonMail said.
Not data, metadata. There is a diference.
You're not making sense. Metadata is a category of data, but you seem to be calling it "not data" and suggesting the difference is like, whole different etymological roots or something (incorrect)
There is. Metadata is information about a set of data. So no, they are not the same. Hence one is called METAdata and the other data.
Chat bot style reply
Well fuck then, how about them chat bots motherfucker?!
They do be getting good
IP address of some activist.
But no messages at all? How can you be an activist and not protect your IP address
He was using their VPN.....
Sorry he was using their email service.
💯 this !
Are there really ANY companies that WOULDN'T give customer info to local authorities if ordered to? Please name them.
They are incentivised to make this work and do it right. It would allow users who already pay for their subscriptions in BTC to have that subscription automated in house.
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Good luck onboarding people via email!
Why? Because you need a proton mail for using the wallet ? I'm open to multiple wallets alternatives, I won't be stacking all, or even 70%, of my lifetime corn savings in a single cold wallet key. That's a terrible idea. Split your savings in several wallets, with different safety methods. This is the best security
Could be. The proper setup for a wallet is self custody with passive bitcoin chain sync via #blockstream satellite. People will learn privacy the hard way.
There is a lot of different proper set ups but yeah just get a hardware wallet generate seed with entropy and you are all set.
Are there really ANY companies that WOULDN'T give up customer info to local authorities if ordered to? Please name them.
You should avoid such companies in bitcoin industry! It’s attack on you!
But are there ANY companies we can trust? Or are they ALL honey pots? I appreciate your default distrust but I'd love to know which companies ARE NOT honey pots. Or should we just criticize and bash every company on earth?
“companies are evil” is a stupid take anyone will hand over if pressured to, would they rather get arrested or give up data what you do is you stop storing data unnecessarily
Makes sense 👍
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The whole point of #Bitcoin is to be P2P. To cut out big brother. No third party required. If you want to do your part, get a node, a small solo miner and a hardware wallet. And wait.
