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 Okay, so the beef is more the overall ethos vs. that specific strategy. 👍🏼 
 MY CONCERN IS THAT IT SEEMS SOMETHING INCREDIBLY SKETCHY IS GOING ON AND FEW WILL SAY SHIT PUBLICLY BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF  REPERCUSSIONS FROM CORY.

HE OWNS THE MAJORITY OF BITCOIN INFLUENCERS. 
 You & Marty should talk to him. I watch your stream. Why not ask him & discuss?  I’m sure he’d join. 
 DOUBT IT. SPOKE TO HIM PRIVATELY MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE MAKING MY CONCERNS PUBLIC. 
 Nothing better than all caps ODELL​ in the morning 🤣 
 “Coffee & ALL CAPS” is my new podcast name. 

🧐🤔 
 Are you yelling on the pod 
 Sam Kinison style. 
 Quick, buy the domain. 
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 Just now…Scrambling, papers flying everywhere and dog barking. 
Where, where, how do I buy a fucking domain?? 
 name.com  
 I can’t in good faith.  ALL CAPS is Odell. He’d be after me for the 9 cents profit my stream would generate. And rightfully so. 
 Heard he's very litigious  
 Just kidding.😃 
 All caps @ODELL is mother natures TRT 
 All Caps ODELL helped me grow a beard 
 Worth the ask. He plays the transparent card and I’m sure there’s some things he can’t/won’t share but he doesn’t lack an opinion. 
 That’s too bad I think it’d be a great conversation to listen to. That sucks if he can’t find the time to talk to the community on this with you guys. 

Makes me question using Swan for that reason alone 
 Agree. 
And Swan can have a place in the world of BTC.  People need a place to get their coin (normal everyday people) and he promotes self custody. And I think they have tutorials & people to help with that. There’s a need for those type services. 
Compare it to Coinbase, which I still believe survives long term even though they are a shitcoin factory. 
 No matter where you buy, always withdraw to self custody.  
 Sound advice. 
 So dumb all this chowing down on each other influencer BS. Call the idiot out. Cory loves being the smart arse and this is not a great look. 
 I'm another Swan participant since Jan 2022. And yes, I found myself having to stress over the Prime Trust fiasco...and then the jump to Fortress Trust...and now another jump.

But Cory has been out there doing some decent forecasting of what other companies are doing and that they would rug-pull. And as much as we'd love it if everyone just stayed humble and stacked sats. His appearances on main stream channels, just like Natalie Brunell, is good for Bitcoin awareness. And we want people to know, right? Not just because of number go up but because it fights a corrupt system both domestically and abroad (from the Fed/Treasury/JP Morgans of the world to the IMF and authoritarian governments).

I disagree with him "owning" a bunch of bitcoin influencers. Have several teamed up with him over the years, yes. But these people already had successful careers/podcasts/etc without Cory. If anything, they pooled resources to develop better strategy for educating the masses. And Swan is VERY education focus and LEADS with the strong encouragement for self-custody...and willing to educate you on that. They will also educate you on how to setup a bitcoin full node.

That doesn't sound like someone looking to rug-pull. And yes, we all wish he would have led with being more turn-key and liimiting 3rd party risk. But in an accelerating innovation market, there has to be some delegation to people who SUPPOSEDLY do things "best in class"...like custodians.

I value your opinion and positions, @ODELL, but I also trust the opinions of Stephan Livera, James Lavish, Jeff Booth, Greg Foss, Sam Callahan, Alex Gladstein, Mark Moss, etc. People who may or may not be sponsored by Swan...but didn't need him beforehand and would still do fine enough that they can have independent opinions. Yet they've teamed or supported Swan.

That has to mean something. 
 Dont forget Lyn Alden 
 And also Nico and Opti, Natalie Brunell. The list goes on.  
 And don’t forget about MAX KIESER and his wife @0815ff97 
 man, i appreciate the position you are in, but cory's behavior insofar as he calls out scammers *could* be an instance of psychological projection. deflection from his company's own sketchiness.

with respect to your concern about "best in class" custody, there are other providers with (better IMO) solutions. eg River, Strike, and Cashapp -- all of which maintain their own custody.

I love Livera too, think he puts out super high quality education, but at the end of the day, where is his bread buttered? what are the incentives of the other folks you listed? 

again, no disrespect from my end, just be careful  
 Well said sir. I rescpect Odell and Cory, so without more tangible truths, we can only wait and see what happens. 
 If you are CURRENTLY accepting advertising money from a person, or ANY money, AND YOU DEPEND ON THAT MONEY they OWN YOU. 
 Matt's track record for catching scammers before they blow it has been pretty stellar  
 I love the fact that this important discussion is not even being seen by the Blue Checks 😂 
 Not all of them. 
 APPRECIATE YOU BEING THE ONLY ONE TO CROSS POST MY CONCERNS TO TWITTER SIR 
 You trying to buy me with those 1000 sats??? ...because it's working. 
 @Natalie, @LynAlden, @stephanlivera....??? 
 These are not real npubs 
 @preston 
 he is not sponsored by Swan 
 As soon as prime trust went under and he switched to fortress I lost respect for Cory. Calling out others who aren't "pure" enough is a distraction from his own BS 
 why do you see this as a bad move? what was the alternative at that moment ? 
 Building out your own infrastructure like river and strike 
 buy from swan and withdraw to cold storage.  besides that, who cares.