Oddbean new post about login | logout RIP Alexei Navalny. The US/UK should free Assange, free Ulbricht, pardon Snowden, and double-down on freedom as a contrast. They won't, but they should. Russia is way more politically controlled and censored than their western counterparts, but if the western counterparts were smart they would emphasize this fact rather than lean more into being even half-like Russia. Kudos to builders of various freedom tech.
I agree with exception of Ulbricht
I mean, he got multiple times longer prison sentence than Maxine Ghislaine. That's just?
I agree the sentence is exaggerated, but he should be accountable for attempting murder
“Attempting murder”? Hey Brunswick, maybe you should familiarize yourself with the Ulbricht case before spouting off demonstrably false nonsense like that. It is public information, after all. For “attempted murder,” a court would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he attempted to kill someone. However, in the Ulbricht case, the judge determined that *did not* happen. You are confusing that with the allegations that Ross agreed to pay a contract to kill someone. And yet, Ross was never charged at trial with “murder for hire” and thus this charge was never ruled on by a jury. In fact, these unproven and unprosecuted allegations were dismissed *with prejudice* in 2018. What did happen? During the trial, prosecutors alleged that he discussed and paid a contract, but this was only presented as evidence by the prosecutors and was weak. Why weak? Because “the accusations relied on anonymous chats and text files never proven to have been authored by Ross. Hard evidence and testimony, including from the lead Silk Road investigator, showed that, over time, multiple people were behind the site admin’s DPR handle. Most significantly, two corrupt investigators (who later sent to prison) also had unfettered access to Silk Road and were admittedly involved in numerous plots.” Ross has always denied being involved with these allegations, and even Curtis Green, the only alleged victim ever identified, is a longtime, fervent supporter of Ross’s release.
#gangsterment #brainwash is an amazing tool! Politicians as well as a myriad of their servants routinely put out extrajudicial contracts for murder, as well as commit ALL the largest mass murders , usually with complete impunity , for any tosh reason they dream up. All who remember #Ulbricht’s trial, saw that it was a rigged show trial, which had nothing to do with #justice, including the #murder #contract charge. All who orchestrated it, got away with crimes, even under their own #laws, much less #morality. This #ClownWorld #PrisonPlanet would be far more peaceful, if murder contracts on #politicians were common. #AnimalFarm
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Sure, but UK/US are more controling politicaly and military. So they do harm to others.
How?
Раша в этих вопросах учится у лучших, там ещё догонять и догонять. Ту же Францию, например nostr:nevent1qqs9hcazvn3wvyudkxgqa3kxgll3zf4fkr267w06x9fmusekka8s6gspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsyg82krn4d5etsz7dge8nmpztspqrqvr45yl2hs6enfmzexk84wglfupsgqqqqqqsle2f50
#FreeAssangeNow nostr:nevent1qqs9hcazvn3wvyudkxgqa3kxgll3zf4fkr267w06x9fmusekka8s6gspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyr4tpe6k6v4cp0x5vneas39cqspsxp66z04tcdve5a3vntr6hy057qcyqqqqqqgrvdarl
Hear Hear‼️
We’ve fallen so far. Contrast this case with Gonzalo Lira’s treatment by Ukraine (green lit by US). These cases are eerily similar. It’s shameful and I wish more people spoke out about it.
I could even imagine Navalny dying was revenge for Lira. We all know with modern life support you could keep people alive for years, even with brain damage.
I doubt it but the point is the US cedes all its moral superiority on a regular basis
Gonzalo Lira was part of the propaganda: „see, Ukraine bad, don’t provide help for bad country”.
So that means he should be imprisoned without trial and killed? Fuckin lol get a grip bro this isn’t commie Twitter.
the western counterparts ARE smart. nobody knows who Ulbricht is or have long enough memory to remember Assange or Snowden. actually makes me wonder why Putin didn't bring up those points during interview though - my guess is he was going for a more conciliatory tone because he recognizes Russia can't fight the war in Ukraine forever ... or as Sun Tzu said in Art of War "no nation has ever benefitted from prolonged warfare" ...
For us (in Poland)he was just another Russian imperialist. Not opposition but competition for Putin. He clearly stated that Poland should be part of Russian empire. Also he officially said that Crimea is Russia. Americans still don't understand Russia.
It’s far worse than that, and also applies to #Poland, regarding socialism, as one of my associates wrote: “ Difficult to feel sorry for anyone who was trying to become the next government and still live by forcing 100% of their funding from the productive captives. From following him and his supporters many years, clear that he would have at most tried to build a socialist, bureaucratic tyranny that exists in Europe, US, Canada, Australia, practically everywhere, except monarchies. That's straight from his collaborators among Russian economists - Milov, Guriev. Nothing else - besides that and the dictatorships that have existed in Russia for a thousand years - is possible there. “
What I heard was that Navalny was a fun guy who just wanted freedom and fun for everyone and that he wanted to become supreme leader of Russia for fun, for goodness, and for truth (kinda like Zelensky). I also heard that everyone in Russian politics is pure and wonderful except for Putin and anyone who doesn't condemn him.
Everyone in russian politics is controlled by putin/kgb/fsb. The whole political spectrum in russia exists only to make an illusion of democracy and to deliver putin's speech indirectly — just check out transcripts by Julia Davis' Russian Media Monitor https://youtube.com/@russianmediamonitor
Yeah, Americans are very naive. Nawalny was a piece of shit and got what he deserved. RuZZia is a mafia state and when someone challenges the capo (Pootin) he gets eliminated.
Words are not enough sometimes and they aren’t pardoned so no one else talk or do anything.
Don't you guys find it a little strange that Navalny dies right after Putin made a somewhat good impression in the Tucker interview? I'm not saying NATO killed Navalny to remind us how evil Putin is... but damn, the timing is great for them.
btw I'm not a Putin simp, I just don't trust anybody in this game anymore
Sur le plan psychique oui et d'ailleurs fait de ceux qui ont une des problématiques d'ordre psychique des pires..l'armee n'a qu'exacerber sa pathologie, devait normalement être inapte pour intégrer le KGV. Me rappelle d'une de ses phrases à l'époque de la courtisanerie d'avec Berlusconi, Sarkozy etc ces mecs très dangereux qui détestaient au plus haut point celui qu'ils nommaient le trop bronzé qu'étaient Obama pour eux, Putin lors d'une conférence de presse, avait bien dit qu'on n'était jamais un ex du KGB, détestait Elsine l'ivrogne tel qu'il le nomme, quant à Gorbatchev il lui en voulait de la perostroskia, suivie de l'éclatement de l'URSS, ne rêve depuis reconstituer l'URSS voire plus l'empire Russie. En veut depuis son enfance selon sa grille de lecture à les leaders russes qui se sont faits avoir durant durant la WW2, sans oublier toute la force armée russe très addicte à l'alcool, les viols au passage de coins libérés ... qui de plus été la première sur Berlin puis s'est retrouvée dupée par les alliés, pour la répartition, sans oublier la première bombe atomique que l'Allemagne avait de prête, infine les soldats Us l'ont eue tout en prenant au passage tant de grands ingénieurs nazis spécialisés de la bombe qui furent prisonniers en UK et USA...in fine elle fut dans dans des zones aux USA et en Corée du Sud etc.. Cette ère de notre sale histoire est declassifiée et d'ailleurs toutes les guerres suivantes Vietnam, Afghanistan sous les russes, reste une partie pas totalement declassifiee Koweït Irak celles d'après 2003, tempête du désert, l'Irak, Afghanistan post 11 sept très médiatisée puis géopolitiquement machiavélique pour l'homme désastreuse pour les Terres
How would nato even get into the prison? After he was moved and "lost"?
I have no idea how well he was protected against attacks from a state actor. But the incentives are real. Everywhere on social media people are hating against Tucker now. Putins propaganda win was neutralized.
It makes no sense from Putins standpoint. Why make an interview and then upset the western public like that.
There's going to be no proof But people know He's keeping his citizens in line Or making a big mistake
Putin killed Navalny doesn't necessarily means that he gave order. It is just can be like he was tortured and some jailer overdid it. Often we are trying to find big reasons were its just a mess. > Putin made a somewhat good impression This impression can only arise if you are not familiar with the situation or if you were already a supporter of putin beforehand. putin said so many stupid things in this interview that it is hard for me to understand how it could have been overlooked.
No, you're not saying NATO killed Nawalny... BUT you're implying it. That's after the playbook of any true conspiracist. Fuck Nawalny, he challenged Pootin with the exact same mindset, nationalistic, imperialistic and right-wing. There can only be one original and that's Pootin and so he eliminated him.
#Useful reading, even in translation, #Navalny’s final words in a #trial in 2014: https://meduza.io/feature/2014/12/19/vranie-stalo-sutyu-gosudarstva Noteworthy how just by changing the names, dates and idiosyncratic details, this final word could be said by a local Navalny/#Assange/#Snowden/#Ulbricht worldwide, including of course #US, #UK, #EU, et al! (That’s because he failed to mention, as a #politician, that continuous #lying is the vital foundation of any coercively funded, armed gang calling itself “#government”, including the one he wanted to lead.) #рустр #Russia
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Is this guy? Doesn't look like a hero depicted by the west. There is a lot if stuff out there which realy looks weird and fascist out there. Was it just an episode or you like this about him? Serious question since I was looking to go and buy and read your bitcoin book. Thx https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1758466233656099203?s=46&t=rhDdlyEdNBvuYBxK11ozzw
So You’re shure that Navalny was a good guy? And what do you have to say about the american citizen and journalist Gonzalo Lira who was killed in a Ukranian prison a month ago?
You should really, REALLY watch this If you haven’t already https://rumble.com/v4dtxtu-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-governments-mass-censorship-campaign.html
He was a right-wing nationalist and basically on the same side as Pootin. He challenged the emperor and got what he deserved. I really respect and admire you Lyn but you only seem to know what the media were feeding you about him being a "democratic" contender.
He was a tax evader and woke liberal CIA asset looking to destroy the country. Good riddance! I can't believe there are so many neo-liberal simps here on nostr who want to promote heroes of degenerate lifestyles and world order lol.
Alexei was a Nazi sympathizer, if not one himself.
Vrai mais la plupart des gens ne semblent pas s'inquiéter du nombre exponentiel de plus en plus de nazis en Europe et dans d'autres pays à travers le Monde où leurs aeuils ont dû trouver refuges durant la WW2.. Aujourd'hui ce sont leurs descendants qui reprennent le même chemin un peu partout et ça craint qu'au sein de l'Europe qu'il ait de plus en plus la montée des extrémistes de droite qui n'hésitent plus à se rassembler dans de grandes européennes en faisant allégeance à Hitler. Certains ont d'ailleurs commencer à prendre le pouvoir politique de plus en plus dans certains pays de l'EU
Nothing to see here. Just a foreign agent died. In this video made in 2010 and leaked in 2012, Navalny's man, Vladimir Ashurkov, asks the British Mi-6 officer, James William Thomas Ford, to pay $10 million a year provide him with the ability to start a colorful revolution in #Russia. https://video.nostr.build/dc5b9044b7d681de6595b45983b83d4e03474c4959915acd7ef5fb2be870f7a9.mp4
we have to do it we cannot wait for US/UK (deep state sucks) we need to act NOW decisions can and should be made quickly by high-judgment individuals or small groups. JB we can do it / I believe in Us a good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan next week. we don’t have time Our friends need Us. how about a call tomorrow around noon Eastern? cc: @jack cc: to all
Finally some sanity here on nostr. Russia is more totalitarian and controlling than any western state and support for Ukraine is fighting against oppressive government. Just see what happened to the Navalny supporters the moment they took to the streets.
I would think the overthrow of a duly elected gov't in Ukraine in 2014 and the 2014 coup by Obama and his CIA henchmen should be factored in to these discussions.. Has the installed (Nazi?) gov't attacking Ukrainians in the ensuing years? Were/are there biolabs being dismantled? Is Russian spoken in these areas? Zelensky closed down the Orthodox Church. He outlawed news groups & t.v. stations.. Are these free market moves?? Why isn't this kind of stuff factored into discussions??
It's a russian bs — nobody overthrown govt. Moreover, Ukraine is parliament-presidential republic, and the whole parliament continued to work till the next elections. Both parliament and president were elected during democratic elections according to Constitution, with international observers, and were internationally recognized, even by russia.
Once the global #Agenda2030 finished, life in western world will be by far more restricted, than it is in China right now.
Way more censored in Russia? IDK Lyn, I'm not in Russia I doubt Russia has the Fiat printing press power to support all the various spook agencies, think tanks and toys that the west does Everyday in my western sphere the narratives are all maximal BS. Spewing propaganda non-stop But yes, betting on freedom to create a better world for everyone is the way to go
The West is kiddos comparing to them — they have media outlets, politicians and the whole political parties all over the world etc. The amount of anti-western (esp. anti-US), anti-Ukrainian propaganda skyrocketed in recent years (blueticks on Twitter spreading it non-stop)
hmmm. Maybe. If so, it's like which poisen do you prefer to kill yourself with Naomi's Kliens "The shock doctrine" details source material of the western psy-op complex development they literally worked with bonsai tree sculpture focus on how to kill a mind we saw that rolled out on us in C19 western propaganda is no playful puppy and it has world destroying consequences
How many doses of the covid vaccine did he take?
dumb take, omg, get a brain
Trump had his chance to do this while poking his finger in the eye of the deep state, instead the midwit pardoned a bunch of rappers. I guess now HE knows what it's like to be hunted by the deep state.
thank you for speaking up!
Russia is not only way more controlled, it is a total dictatorship! While i agree with you Snowden and Assange need to be released, they leaked secret documents, which was considered a crime. In contrast Nawalny did not commit any crime whatsoever and was killed just for speaking up. So there is a huge difference.
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