I would think the overthrow of a duly elected gov't in Ukraine in 2014 and the 2014 coup by Obama and his CIA henchmen should be factored in to these discussions.. Has the installed (Nazi?) gov't attacking Ukrainians in the ensuing years? Were/are there biolabs being dismantled? Is Russian spoken in these areas? Zelensky closed down the Orthodox Church. He outlawed news groups & t.v. stations.. Are these free market moves??  Why isn't this kind of stuff factored into discussions??