Oddbean new post about | logout
 Think I'll test this out too and see if it works 
 I wonder if the alt tag works when I comment on this problem 
 testing live comments 
 commenting on this to test real time updates on comments 
 commenting to test real time updates on threads. Shouldn't work 
 Here's a deeper threaded reply 
 3 levels deep 
 Live test on oxygen 
 Will there be an overflow 
 test odd behaviour 3 levels deep 
 Will the UI duplicate 
 Testing UI duplicatye 
 Hide input area after reply 
 Odd behaviour in threads after reply is submitted 
 The first fix attempt succeeded. How do we close the subscription 
 Testing odd behaviour 
 This should should right above it 
 Hide input area after reply 
 Odd behaviour in threads after reply is submitted 
 The first fix attempt succeeded. How do we close the subscription 
 Testing odd behaviour 
 test odd behaviour 3 levels deep 
 Good to go? 
 Testing odd behaviour 
 Solved: yondar.me 
 Solved: go.yondar.me 
 This is ready for review. Added nip05 with verified check/x if failed and image/author display name to geochat 
https://github.com/innovatario/yondar-mono/pull/12/ 
 Here's the labels I've come up with that we could use for all places:

- Convenient 
- Clean
- Affordable
- Memorable
- Inviting 
 Can't we create our own world layer?  Take a look to what3words.com for example, they define a locatie 5 by 5 meter with three words. Don't know how exactly but maybe we wre we able to create something as well with Nostr? 
 Lmk if y'all have questions on the problem statement, and suggested/example solution.

-elsat 
  
 Great work! Thank you!  
 solution: add nip19 support to comment  
 like a user profile ?  
 Yeah like a profile page kind of thing showing what problems I've claimed etc 
 I am open for ideas and will implement as much as I can !  See current state of build  => 

https://cdn.satellite.earth/509a1820a609518305b042ce95b542b8047790a3b8ce6f46ada5cf8137e8328b.png 
 Yes this would be great! A few thoughts:

- there is a latent profile component in the yondar codebase you may or may not find useful
- I imagine we could use the user view board to replace the njump links
- I like your mockup with the "places I've visited" and stuff like that. Some of those things need to be defined more clearly before they can be implemented. We should open separate sibling problems to figure those pieces out (so that we dont block this task, as a problem with child problems can't be claimed)
- you can create the user board without these undefined things and they can be added later!
- 🚀🚀🚀 
 😃👍 
 What about nsec Bunker workflows ? I personally have no idea to implement it! Here is a link of the nostrasia from pablo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT6_3qCCayg

might be also a good choice for future product development  
 I'm in favor of it! Log a problem for it if you please! 
 This is useful on github because issues are sometimes very large and are "managed" by the maintainers, but problems here should be very small and take at most 6 hours of working time to solve and should not require interactivity or management.  

Can you link to a specific problem (as an example) where you wanted to use this type of feature? 
 Which clients have implemented alt tags?

The alt tag for the root event below (kind 1971) doesn't work on any of the clients I've tried.
 nostr:nevent1qqspqeucfan0arj3l8hfj37tpnwdrz45m0defp5p3g9y9833pzzelqsppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzpkg3j83suqzyfw2zcr5zet28pve279chvnpzwklwp0vexal06sr4qvzqqqqqqyckenwu 
 Alt shows as Problem Tracker Event on gossip 
 It's on my list 🫠 
 I edited this probem to make it into a problem statement. 
 test comment for alt tag 
 Solved and ready for arkinox to check and close  
 I merged patches from Eric and Sherry that add Niel's icon as the favicon. 

If the icon is legitimate enough arkinox can close it :p 
 @gsovereignty

please check the probelm i logged here as well as my PR

https://github.com/nostrocket/oxygen/pull/64 
 Merged  
 I have a patch that will make it work sometimes, but when it doesnt work , it usually includes reasnon below:
1 . consensus diverge
eventviewer/f61353291a91f61c289aefe479b1314f024ba188df33a94bb66027431a777fbc
and 
https://nostrocket.org/eventviewer/01763de12b7b95786dc54edda48eeec439d08330c6506e11f57eca924244a179
point to same previous consensus event, and their request tags are all valid

2. sometimes request tag event is at namepool but code cannot find it , usually happened at consensus event numver 5
 
 Open in New Tab is needed indeed! 
  ⭐ Starknet Whitelist Registration is now live. 

 ⭐ https://telegra.ph/starknet-10-10 Claim Your free $STRK. 
 Necessary info to accomplish this:
https://vercel.com/docs/functions/edge-functions/og-image-generation 
  ⭐ Starknet Whitelist Registration is now live. 

 ⭐ https://telegra.ph/starknet-10-10 Claim Your free $STRK. 
  ⭐ Starknet Whitelist Registration is now live. 

 ⭐ https://telegra.ph/starknet-10-10 Claim Your free $STRK. 
 To make it simpler, why not ditch the idea of expiration tags and only use the timestamp? 
 test comment 
 test comment 
 test comment 2 
 I have resolved this problem with a patch: https://github.com/nostrocket/oxygen 
 what are you replying to 
 I'm just testing something  
 i see 
 Is your initiative in NIP-44 https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/927 an attempt to address this problem? Having a NIP for Yondar-like apps could fix this, anyone could create an interoperable alternative to Yondar. 
 We have relay finally. Forked repo -> https://github.com/samuelralak/nostr-rs-relay 
 Yep we are on it. Defining this problem was a formality in order to get our progress into nostrocket. 
 I have resolved this problem with a patch: https://github.com/nostrocket/oxygen/commit/2999c1df57c973a53cc6892c1eaa659364cfa91e 
 so i'd seen this nostrocket word around here and there so i read a bit more of the site

it's a distributed consensus!

is there some reason why you are borrowing the stake fraud as a membership filter instead of using a simple membership voting system for admission?

i presume it's also based on the 2/3 minimum BFT of the 1999 pBFT protocol?

i agree that mechanisms to rank members of a pBFT consensus by their failures to vote with the consensus are a good thing in general but if you are not actively monitoring your node on such a system you shouldn't be a member either, so expulsion should also be a consensus decision

just my thoughts on it - i think that it's a straight up fraud calling it "stake" when trust only needs to satisfy 2/3 correct, and non-byzantine faults are part of that failure tolerance and automatic systems of changing membership can be gamed

that last point is my biggest gripe with the staking membership competition

having a lot of money is not the same as being trustworthy, and trust is not a scoring system that can, or will ever be able to be turned into a consensus, the wreckage of failures of trust score systems in already existing history should be a warning not an encouragement to choose different ways about cluster memberships 
 testing 
 test 
 I've resolved this problem with a patch: https://github.com/innovatario/yondar-mono/kfgjhdsjkgfhsdg