Thanks for the zap! Yeah, the BYD Seagull is around $10,000. It won't be sold in the US, and I think they're right to be scared. Despite the price point, it looks like a decent vehicle. I think Tony Seba predicted $5,000 EVs with at least 200 miles of range by 2030, but what I want is the cheap ride hailing.  

 I was reading that South America and Australia could really embrace this Car that could be a big blow to the big 3 

 Yeah, Europe too I think. Here's a video on some of that research: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqs0_3M-18c I think they're going to release updated research soon too, so I'm pretty interested to know what they'll say now. 

 Wow that’s pretty fascinating