Oddbean

That's cool. Nothing against you being Muslim. At least you all speak kindly of jesus. The Disciples of Jesus wrote the bible. It was their testimony. I personally seen Jesus himself when I Jumped into a lake and was close to drowning. He appeared in the light, the light in the darkness of the lake. You should find Christ now.

I love Jesus. But I really find it strange to call him Jesus. I prefer to call him Isa as, the son of Mariam. I got my love for him through the Quran. Muslims in general have a deep love for their prophets. I also really really love Ibrahim saw (you may know him as Abraham). Thank you for sharing this personal story with me. However, for me there is only Allah, Allah and Allah. A life where I cannot see myself as a slave of my almighty Allah, is not a life that I want to live. We Muslims love having only God. Saying that Jesus somehow is more than a slave and prophet or Allah drives us nuts. We don't understand this. I tried and asked, but it does not make any sense to me. If you like this idea of trinity - your life, your decisions

We only have God too. Jesus and god are on. We don't understand the plumbing. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it. 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[b] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

Ohh that's heavy. Well, I as a Muslim would never say or assume that Allah would have taken a son or a daughter. He is too perfect for that, much above that. The need for a son is with humans. Please take a look at the two attached images. The first one is the second Surah. The second image is a very heavy ayat that challah highlight how offending the idea of Allah having a child is in Islam. Again, your life your decisions. I am not here to get you a Muslim. My goal is only to understand the Quran myself and talk about the tiny bits I came to understand https://image.nostr.build/a3adb972e9bbba42ff212b04b7749585da2d433d506243473d8012a17e9e6452.jpga

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