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 find it crazy that people can function with less than 10 hours of sleep

feel drowsy and spaced out with just 8 hours 
 8 hours is luxury 🥲 
 damn, how much you getting! 
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 also please reorganise those buttons, clicking like by accident from muscle memory, used to having reply on the left https://image.nostr.build/ee66267889298069c1591b2119831de29b6fb7b40e62f55684cd58624f808968.jpg  
 4 hrs checking in 🫡 
 WHAT 
 😂 💀 
 is this you https://image.nostr.build/40d6b54dead8d3b2722ea8dec0610c3d5fe475165a876d2f3bf8d69f26c9802b.jpg  
 Sometimes 
 working or just family time? 
 I just stay up late and have to wake up at the same time every day. 

Weekend in theory is when I can sleep in, but then kids wake up even earlier. 
 I kinda feel you on that, I feel my brain's creativity turn up a notch past 10-11 PM, creative tasks become really easy and ideas start flowing out

it's also why most of me yapping about ideas regarding nostr has been past midnight 
 I wish I could go to sleep around 10 or 11 but there’s too much to do after kids fall asleep. 

I do rest a lot in between. It’s probably the only reason I’m alive right now. 
 yeah, chores really take up a bunch of time and suddenly it's past midnight

you take regular breaks with your remote work or just based off of feel? curious how you avoid burning out whilst obsessed with a project 
 Not regular but whenever I feel like I need one. I optimize for most productive stretches of time. Design is part grind and part creative. You can force the grind but you can’t force creative. Ideas come at random times too and you sometimes do most of the work in your mind right after waking up or doing some totally random thing. 

I guess it helps to enjoy your work or else id be burned out more. It’s nice being able to say that I have fun working so it never feels like work. 
 It does feel like a really privileged and fortunate position to be in, and it's really inspiring too

Reading random things and just experiencing life gives a lot of ideas, so it's nice to have a notepad at hand

🤗 
 I used to actually hate design work. I thought it wasn’t for me. But then I realized I was just working on the wrong things that I didn’t care about. Having a guiding principle in life towards some great long term goal made me realize I like design work as long as it’s for something I care about. Right now those things are bitcoin and nostr so work feels like play. Plus, great people motivate you to be better. When everyone is at the top of their game you’d hate to disappoint them. I think about this often and it’s probably a strong motivator. 
 It's possible you are oversleeping at 8 
 huh

i've been trying to work out when's the best for me to go to bed and how much to sleep

any guidance? 
 Try different amounts until you find what's right for you

10 is very likely to be wrong

Sometimes less is more

Do not look at any screens 1 hr before sleep 
 so 10 is too much you're saying?

what about naps? are they good or do they mess up the rhythm?

the screen thingy felt like a personal attack, so it's time to change that 😆 
 If you feel drowsy with 8 hours, try 7, not 9. If you're super sensitive, you can even try to fine-tune it, like 7.5 hours. But it sounds unlikely that you feel well sleeping 9, 10 hours regularly (barring some sort of condition). 
 maybe i'm just a master eeper

my record is 15 hours in a row (don't recommend)

i'll try out a regular time of going to bed and waking up without an alarm clock, to see what my body feels like 
 More than 7.5h makes me super sleepy all day. 6-7hrs is optimal for me it seems. 
 huh, maybe i am oversleeping

when i sleep without an alarm clock, i seem to sleep for like 9-10 hours atleast, if not more 
 Do you have a good cyrcadian rhythm?  
 uhmm

any quizzes or tests for that to check? 
 Wake up with the sun, go outside before 9am so the body can get some red light in the morning and after 4-5PM so that it can wind down. Try to minimize blue light exposure (screens, phone) after sunset since blue light is only usually present in sunlight around 12PM. Your body thinks it’s day again. 
 wait

you have sun? been cloudy and rainy here the whole day 😆

i mostly get sunlight when i am walking to or from classes, but that's mostly it https://image.nostr.build/fef7b42ff60ba2ca1cda94292a82da61ace0ee4c90dd86eb1170ecc0d317bb65.jpg  
 LOL yeah winter is miserable 😩 especially up north. Definitely not the best time to adjust circadian rhythm. Classroom setups are also not friendly to the body. It’s all blue light all the time. I was always, always tired in school. Bet our circadian rhythm was out of wack. 
 I feel like I am just studying, eating and sleeping 😂

Went for a really smol run yesterday just to shock my body a little 
 Would you wake up at around the same time without an alarm or a loud mom?  
 uhhhh, good question

i usually wake up with an alarm during the weekdays

but the times i go to bed are really random, so i am trying to be more consistent with that 
 It should help a lot.  
 7 is my magic number. 

Maybe you're sleeping too much? Or maybe it's a diet thing? Or maybe you're still building your brain? That requires a lot of sleep. 😊 
 i don't really know, trying to find more of a stable thing to go off of, and thought starting with sleep 🤗

building a galaxy brain 😆 definitely could be one the reasons it needs sleep

or maybe i am just an eepy person 
 Eat properly and workout 
 when i can finally have the time to work full-time, i'd love to

noodles and sandwiches until then 
 Wdym by “have the time to work full time”? 
 bachelor degree's schedule takes up most of the time of the timespan of a 9-5 
 Ah gotcha. I just graduated in May. gl bro 🤙 
 sick, congrats buddy, it's no easy task 🤗

will be going for a master's also, but luckily then the scheduling will be more towards folks who work full-time during the day, so the classes will be during the evening 
 I'm constantly running on around 5-6.......coffee helps. 
 trying to stay away from caffeine if possible 
 It's individual. You gotta sleep what your body ask. Setting alarm to wake up is fiat torture  
 yeah, pretty much all my life

and i wake up, and sometimes i'm like, "meh i dun wannan" and then after about half an hour i get sick of not falling back to sleep so i bounce out of bed and get moving