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 I have a tendency to think I'm reading women, especially when I see kindness  
 I'm glad you can see kindness instead of "niceness." I hate the conflation of the two. 

 
 I don't know if I really can. would you tell me more about it? 
 If you want me to rant about it, sure... But it's gonna have to wait until after I shower.  
 is it a joke?
if it's true, of course I can wait ☺️ 
 No. I just showered and am debating what tea I should end my day with, and how much I can cut my normal half hour rant down to be able to type it without sounding tooooo nutty.  
 hahaha what if you start telling me what bothers you when people say niceness instead of kindness? 
 I was busy typing a reply. See above/below/wherever your client renders my reply.  
 Ooookay. Tea choice:
Stash peppermint. I love mint tea on the summer, even hot, but especially cold. I'm not adding sweatener since I'm still mostly carnivore and finally back on track to my weight loss goals. (The sweetener part of this came to mind since it's related to the subject at hand....)

Let's start with my least favorite word: nice. To me, there is no greater insult that one can levy at me than for someone to call me "nice." There are several layers to this, but I'll stick to the original meaning and the modern connotation. Plus a bonus: is a word of French origin, and I'm savagely annoyed that there's so much French in modern English. 

"Nice" has bothered me for more than three decades. When I was younger, I discerned that nice was used on several ways, and only one of them was acceptable due to relational contexts. Firstly, older church ladies called me a nice boy. I will accept that as a compliment as intended, but, what they actually meant was that I was polite, courteous, and respectful. Secondly, when I was a bit older, girls called me nice. What they really meant was that I was a big brother type with whom they felt safe. This is possibly acceptable, but also a bit hurtful at times, since it was mostly meant to be dismissive. That dismissiveness had an edge of finality to it, abd that edge can cut deep... As I grew older, nice was not just dismissive but patronizing. Men only use "nice" as an insult when speaking of other men, and women use it as the shield of the friendzone. All of this stems from the origin of the word, which, as best as I recall originally meant "so sweet as to be cloying or repugnant."

"Nice" is an insult, realized it not. 

Kindness, on the other hand, is a virtue and present only in the strong of character. Being genuinely kind requires the strength to put others above your own needs, fortitude to handle difficult and awkward situations, and wisdom to show restraint, lest kindness turn into a matter of prideful showmanship. 

Recognizing kindness means that one is aware of these things, even if it isn't explicitly stated. 

I think I'll end there.  
 thank you so much for all of this. I love tea. and I  don't like coffee 😬

I don't think it is nuts at all. it comes from your experiences and it's very well thought. I'm sorry you lived these experiences with this word. I don't think nice is a compliment either and I like how you see it with loving eyes when some people told you that, and also know what they probably meant. 

English is not my first language and it's really hard for me to write in English. but I can read whatever you want to talk about it, if you want to. 
 It is wonderful to connect with a person who does not like coffee! 😊🫖🍵We seem to be rare in the world, at least in the parts of the world I live  and the cozy corners of the internet that I seek. 

Thank you for reading. I love words
It's a bit of a shame that I never stuck with learning more languages when I was young enough to be able to easily soak up new thought patterns. It's one of my larger regrets. 

I'm glad you can see that it's not just... "Too much?" I did attempt to tone down the usual rant, however, since that wouldn't help me get my point across. Normally, this all might come out a bit... Unhinged. 😅 Writing can help organize one's thoughts. 

I'm not sad that I experienced those things. I am sad that more people aren't careful with their words. Sloppy communications are the cause of more suffering and heartache than nearly anything else. 

You write exceptionally well in English. It is a pleasure to read. Thank you for putting in the effort to my English-addled brain. 😊 
 now I'm happy I told you that about the coffee, because when I sent you I thought it was an unnecessary information ahaha

is there any language you still want to learn?

I think it's really important for us to be aware of what we're saying. words are very important to me, and they help me see things about myself. I usually don't say many things, I love to listen to people. but I also love to communicate what I perceive and the insights I get, so I write.

after we talked I started to write a text that will be in my brother's marriage site. our conversation inspired me to listen to myself while writing and respecting my own time.

I'm honoured with your compliment about my writing, and I got the impulse to say I don't deserve it, but I'll just thank you. thank you!  
 The unnecessary is often where minds meet and the pleasure of making someone's acquaintance sprouts. 😁

Modern and ancient Greek, ancient Hebrew or one of the roots thereof, Japanese, and Welsh. 

Awareness is key to most things. 😊 I enjoy talking to people who are curious about the world. Curiosity is one of the most attractive (and I don't mean that in a physical way, just as the type of personality that draws one closer) traits, and if a person is curious AND attentive, that is the root of the most excellent conversations and possibly even friendships. 

From what I've read of your writing, you are very thoughtful and careful in what you write. You have a lovely mind to be able to do this! 

Having a sibling get married is either the best or the worst thing to happen to them. I hope he has a good marriage partner. ☺️ I am sure that what you write for him will be a vastly positive influence on a most auspicious day! 

I very much understand the impulse to think that way. But, I am confident in a few things, and writing is one of them. 

You are welcome. I look forward to reading your carefully chosen words! 😁