Thanks, someone hit it first. 
It was a one time zap of your choice.

Always learning.

Love the Nostr family 

 Phoenix seems useless.

Can’t zap, channel may be closed if I don’t use it (only a small amount of Sats), cost me 30k to open (50% my fault).

Like, what’s the point? 

 I sent you a zap from both Phoenix and Mutiny. Both worked fine. 
https://image.nostr.build/c0cb22f113b39d929a5e8f77cb18f1255a744b102e25fa445cdee893e390279b.jpg
https://image.nostr.build/e814d4a94671d0cb5f9458d59d4836243804b4e07349465136765d596302381f.jpg 

 Hummm.

I put WOS back into Damus.

I’ll zap you 21 back and then switch back to Phoenix.

Which number should I use for Phoenix? 

 Number? 

 Ok, second attempt worked.

Still, there’s a 4 sat fee when sending?

That’s 20% of the 21sat send… 

 Thanks 

 I never use Phoenix for zaps. Mine usually go through with no fee or 1 sat at most. 

 Yeah, i use WoS for zaping
Electrum for secure storage

Not your keys not your money
 

 Just tried to pay with Phoenix (21sats + 4 sat fee?? 4 sat??) 

Said error. 

 Weird. I had no trouble with Phoenix, and 4 sats was the estimated fee but the payment went through at 1 sat. The fee estimate is just an estimate until the route is attempted, and it’s often less.

Are you on the latest version? 

 Where do I find my LNurl in Phoenix?

Or should I just use WOS and transfer over when needed? 

 Yeah, Phoenix doesn’t have that capability. You’ll still need a wallet with a Lightning address for zaps. If you’re not in the US, WoS is an option, along with Alby and LN.tips. 

 Ohh awesome. Thanks