Oddbean new post about login | logout hey nostr. currently eating dinner and trying to wrap my head around this exchange I had with "Altcoin Daily" if the truth makes people fearful, uncertain, and doubtful is that still FUD? the fact that shitcoiners are like "nah yeah everything you said on TV is 100% correct, but by telling everyone the truth youre scaring people from buying our shitcoin" has really put my brain in a pretzel https://m.primal.net/HZEL.png https://m.primal.net/HZEM.png https://m.primal.net/HZEN.png
That’s a silly account.
No that’s not FUD. FUD is misleading and dishonest in nature. Lmao so funny that they said that.
Classic example of someone that wants the truth, but “You can’t handle the truth.”
What I see is bottom line #Ethereum may have some functional value that the Universe finds useful. I personally don't have a clue, because I haven't learned anything about it. 🤤
They’re just hanging on by fingernails at this point.
I think because you are true to yourself people take you word because they feel it’s not a play/game what you do. More and more people see this 👁️ Its really refreshing standing for what you say and also in a fun way. Not taking yourself to serious. (The humble way) stay doing what you do, don’t loose your self stay close to your heart 💫 Have a good dinner. Cheers from Bangkok (breakfast time)
To be fair, the tweet from shitcoin daily clearly states: “fud”, which is not FUD. Which is to say, if one does not ODELL the fud, one could in fact not be claiming it to be actual FUD, given the CAPLOCK-ing of said acronym in question.
Their response is a bunch of meandering bullshit. “Always inspiring to hear to speak about bitcoin-only” and by the way, buy our shitcoin. These “communities” have a vested interest in pumping their own bags, and it always comes out in the wash when you start questioning their fundamentals. It’s #Bitcoin only because of the fundamental properties that do not exist in ANY other monetary instrument The rest is fluff and snake oil sold by crypto bros with fiat brain
Speaking the truth is not FUD; in fact, it is a moral duty. Additionally, I have not yet heard any reasonable argument as to why anyone should buy Ethereum. It is centralized and inefficient, pure gambling with no clear vision whatsoever.
Remember, All digital currencies are a consensus network around a psychological concept. Pretty much anyone agreeing that they think money is like this while someone else says I think money is like this. You can not have a consensus about different currencies with different protocols. Otherwise all altcoins would run on bitcoins chain. It is important to learn how to respectfully disagree with someone who has a different view than your own.
First of all chaumin e-cash and robux are digital currencies with no consensus. Second of all, some of these shitcoins really be backed by a single personality. Like a founder or president (Charles) or CEO or business and they often have backdoors to ensure their word is "consensus" Is it really consensus if the options are go along with a hard fork 1 person decided to implement or leave?
In my opinion, Federated tokens are shitcoins too. Anything you trade your bitcoin for is inherently less valuable than bitcoin, Giving it “shitcoin” status. Chaumian ecash does work, But so does ethereum. The consensus is that bitcoin has the widest adoption, And is the most valuable.
I didn't mean that everyone should just buy more and more coins until they have no dollars. I only mean that if someone is in a position where they find their marginal coin so precious that spending it on something that they want seems stupid to them they ought be buying more coins. Coins are clearly more precious to them than the market rate so they should buy some more until that is no longer the case. To use myself, I think the expected value of coins is somewhere around $100000. Yet I use them all the time. That's because ~$300 now is worth as much to me as $100000 will be to me when coins are $100000. If I had almost no coins that wouldn't be the case and I wouldn't spend coins, in fact I'd buy a ton of them until that last coin I bought wasn't particularly precious.
Yes. I think you took my note as an endorsement of e-cash for some reason when in reality, it was a bashing of the idea that all digital currencies are consensus networks. If a government body has consensus on something we don't say that the people being subjugated to its decision as participating in consensus.
A single personality like David Chaum?
Yes in the cash of digi cash
‘’There is so much more’’ Like what? A centralized POS story….. Insane
Altcoin Daily clearly don't understand what FUD actually means Indeed people that continue to support ETH, whilst recognising the FUD is truth are either: a) nefarious in their actions b) totally blinded into extreme naiivety Neither option is a good one... Keep up the hustle!
the truth is FUD to them because they don't want people knowing. that said, i really do believe that many shitcoiners just do not care. they know that they're gambling and that's all that matters to them.
Gaslighting + Conspiracy combo. Bitcoin isn't some big secret. Get real. Maybe they're taking a calculated risk? Or maybe they know something we don't? Maybe or maybe not. Must be measured in our opinions. Must acknowledge that we don't know everything. And that's fine. If one is Bitcoin only that's fine. If one holds other coins then that's fine too. I've lost way too many friends by labeling them Shitcoiner and calling them that.
your message is great. it is a distraction. Because not jusr becauzs of geneis and there in only one bitcoin, but literally too many distracting overlapping tech: farcaster > nostr L2s > lightening / Fediments VC funded pump and dumps > legit VC non coin tech etc etc it's not just a distracrion is dilutes resorces and activs users acrosscompeting but same vision tech. one being the apex and one being a pump and dumo bononza. Hopefully you scare and FUD them into Bitcoin !
That’s the point isn’t it? To instil FUD in Ethereum by relaying the truth. I guess one could argue that FUD is bad when it’s based on lies in order to mislead, and good when it’s based on truth to educate and warn those to steer clear. Negative FUD vs positive FUD (or is FUD always inherently negative 🤔).
Ah yes the "any criticism is bad because our project is perfect" mentality. If crypto does succeed it'll be in spite of this mentality instead of because of it. Nobody changed the world for the better with cognitive dissidence and cult like mentality.
ChatGPT: “FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) typically refers to spreading misleading or exaggerated information to create negative perceptions. If information is true but presented in a way to induce fear or uncertainty, it might still be considered FUD-like behavior.” However, IMHO truth trumps FUD. 🙂
Is it FUD to tell people the dollar is inflating much faster than they are telling us, or that the national debt is skyrocketing and can only be comprehended on a logarithmic chart and the fiat jig is almost over? The altcoiners, in my estimation, aren't playing a long game and they're hoping their coin will someday yield news of being adopted by a big bank, central bank or could be used for international settlements. They are waiting for a pump only so they can dump bags for fiat. They aren't expecting a grass-roots movement to overcome the archaic debt-paper shell game, they're betting on complete and total overwhelming global totalitarian fascism and surveillance. They aren't fighting back, they aren't fighting foe good. They're hoping to ride the war machine's wave of destruction and are operating from a perspective of defeated utter powerlessness.
Hmmm, what is this "much more" , Altcoin Daily?
Do not argue with fools, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
No doubt. I just couldn't believe my eyes to be honest lol
How many cycles you think till we get no more shitcoinery?
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Cool quote, but actually FUD 😉 "If the truth shall kill them, let them die" is falsely attributed to Kant, and actually stems from Ayn Rand paraphrasing Kant" More: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/72021/what-is-the-basis-for-kants-misquote-if-the-truth-shall-kill-them-let-them-di
hey are u FUDing pretzels?
We live in a society that shuns criticism, even if it's constructive and true. Most people are more afraid of offending someone than speaking the truth, even if the truth can save their life. Don't look up. Don't face the truth.
No one will truly embrace Bitcoin until: 1) They’re disillusioned w/ Fiat money 2) They understand the Cypherpunk culture 3) They begin studying Bitcoin All 3 of those, imho, are necessary to a true approach to Bitcoin. So personally, I fade the tourists. True plebs know that the Money they’ve known their whole lives is a broken lie, that the people who forced that money on us and lied to us are illegitimate scammers, and that Bitcoin offers a chance at a rich future Humanity has never had a chance of hoping for until 2009.
They are scammers
tell him HFSP, buh bye 😄
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We have Jack, Jack Ballers, Odell and Gigi on Nostr and that makes me think we're gonna be alright nostr:nevent1qqsq9j9093ch3yln3px5cnl0e84tkpvj865q76x47map3npdku2vu2cppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzp382htsmu08k277ps40wqhnfm60st89h5pvjyutghq9cjasuh38qqvzqqqqqqymte0mk
Love what you've said about ETH cause it's true. The DAO hack showed us that ETH can't be trusted, that the people developing the wallets cannot be trusted and that they'll rollback the chain at any time, for their friends.
I watched your interview. You certainly were not Fearful, Uncertain or Doubtful. You were simply stating facts. If you express that a bicycle’s front wheel has a loose nut, causing the wheel to come off at any time, that ain’t FUD. That’s facts.
".. didn't say it was untrue.." "..convey and leads people to believe.." -You are saying the truth- -I'm trying to make the truth sound less true, saying its can be scary if people know it- -Oh and I will lick your ass saying it's great how you don't bend over shitcoins incentives calling you a maxi and sub intending that is a closed minded view- That right there was FiatShitcoinDaily Mind at its peak.. 🤡 @jack mallers expose them more! 💜🫂🤙
I guess in the land of shitcoin affinity scams truth is FUD. Maybe it needs to be FUDded more often by others then too. 🤷
BITCOIN IS FREEDOM https://m.primal.net/HZGO.png
The truth threatens their everything
I guess the question should be whether the FUD has a strong basis in reasoning and facts. FUD in itself is not specific enough when taken literally. Some things it is very rational and wise to have lots of FUD about So perhaps some qualifying words should be added and the focus should probably be on the reasons why we use the particular qualifiers.
mAliNfORmaTIon!
That's the definition of malinformation: it's true, but it might make people do things that we don't like. "The banks are inherently unstable, but it's malinformation to say so because people might try to take their money out." "Sure, these are legitimate points about the public health decisions, but we must censor them because they will make people doubt public health officials."
Shitcoin Daily
Thanks for sticking the truth into their faces Jack.
you "scared" shitcoiners - LOL
Don't give a flying f*ck what those clowns have to say on the matter. Those f*cks, when it's all said and done, will have gotten so many people rekt it's criminal.
I thought your take leaned more positive for eth than fud, especially when you described it as more of a tech investment. But maybe most people don’t knowingly invest in or understand, for example, companies can have unethical starts and hiccups as they grow. That’s not fud, it’s just something to keep in mind when investing.
I'm not going to mince my words on this: You've brought shame to Bitcoin before with your deception. You put photos around suggesting you had a deal with apple. Then a middle finger to an ATM. A falsified video of you paying with BTC in a store and a so called deal with NCR where you assured everyone that by the end of the year they'd be paying with Bitcoin in major US stores. Scammy Pump and Dump Boiler room tactics. Then you shamelessly said "Oh the media is finding my boogers on the internet" You've lost all credibility.
You're trying to gaslight us here. I read their article. They made excellent points. You couldn't counter their arguments intelligently enough and are now whining. Everyone won't throw you softball questions, everyone won't just go along with what you say. Have proper counter arguments ready or acknowledge that they may have a point or that you need to consider their opinions and get back to them.
@jack may molly coddle you or flatter you. That's upto him. I'm just going to kick you in the nuts coz that's what will wake you up. Your cap wearing, swearing, scammy pumping and gaslighting don't work any more. Get real, get serious, build or go home. Vaporware can only last so long. Fake videos can only last so long. Photos suggesting huge deals eventually come to light as lies.
@jack your friend Bob Lee was working on MobileCoin (which my VC relative backed BTW). It qualifies as a shitcoin right? So he was a dirty shitcoiner then right? Let's all heap insults on him sall we? Oh we shouldn't because he's deceased? But it's okay to slander and insult the living?
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