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 I still think relay-based spam filtering is the way to go (some client-based filtering can also help, but shouldn't be the main thing), but there is not a clear way to do it:

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One obvious solution mentioned by @Kieran that had never occurred to me was that clients should default to fetching replies from the OPs inbox relays and let them decide if they want their reply section to be filthy and full of spam or a nice place. 
 From a user perspective, subscribing to trusted mute lists of others users can also help 
 Muting cannot help as a decent spammer will create a new pubkey for each post. 
 You’re right, this attack has escalated a lot 
 eventually, we will need anti-spam services working both on the relay and client sides, like we have for emails. But this might add a delay on the processing of relayed notes (maybe the anti-spam service might "sign" the notes in some way so we can just check if the signature from a reliable anti-spam service is present) 
 Ribeyes make you strong 💪  
 How about a hash cash based pow concept where nostritches have to Zap the network or a specific relay or something like that to make a post. Cost to post goes up until spam decreases, almost like a difficulty adjustment. Every action (post, like, repost, etc) all has imbedded zaps. It would also be acceptable for a lower tier, less expensive experience that has more spam but costs less (nothing?). In this way end users can specify how much they want to spend and what they want their experience to be like. Could also provide incentive to run relays.  Market dynamics would reward most freedom, least censorship, best / fastest relay  performance. 
 ...could a also provide financial incentive to make client applications with elegance, control, and constantly improving end user experience.  We may all end up spending $12 / month but based on usage and in a free market of ideas and applications. 
 Regressive and discriminatory towards the poor and the 3rd World. It favor just the rich in 1st World countries that can afford it.

Let's do it! 
 lol, nailed it! value in and value out. nothing is free 
 Who pays for and who benefits from the memes of production? Who is John Galt? 
 Couple of days ago I suggested  a simple method to reduce the spammer accounts on relay side. Tgis means that all relay should get 1sat for every new user account (and/or every month to check the account is still living). This means that the account must have a connected LN address. This is not so simple task to automatize. Therefore smaller amount of spammer account  have to filter or put on a blacklist on relay side.
Any opinion?
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 Do people want messages from randos? Because I mainly see posts from my follows 
 Bicho, o meu aqui tá lento pra caramba. Que merda!