This user deleted his profile shortly after joining Nostr, but it wasn't because of the community. If you read the early comments before he deleted his profile, you'll see Nostriches providing help. They're giving him instructions on how to find tune his feed, choose his own algorithm, and make the most of Nostr - no matter the content. I don't think we as a community could have done any better in this example. I believe this failure at user retention was not at the fault of the community, but more so on the user not willing to learn. Could we have done better? Sure. There's always room for improvement. However, the user needs to be willing to learn as well. They need to be willing to step outside their comfort zone, just a little, and learn. Better luck next time. nostr:nevent1qqsrycqugfm4jskwwp4z9lkwka4ks0la8kujj485x7lh3yxan9e9rfcpzdmhxue69uhhwmm59e6hg7r09ehkuef0qgs8ktsxmqfg2c3l8w5uv9uh5zxufmwc4pgw3nd3h7mvjje8rcuyc7grqsqqqqqp4jet00
Too much (Nostr) push.
Sometimes it is overzealous Bitcoiners yelling get a lightning wallet over and over again, but that wasn't the case here.
Says a lot, when one of the worst things about Nostr is Bitcoiners aggressively wanting to send you free money 😂
It's funny because it's true. We want Nostr to succeed and we want new users to feel welcome.
He just wasn't ready for this yet
Agree. He'll come back when he's ready and hopefully when he doesn't even realize it 🫂🥹
100% agree.
If the UI/UX were good, the community wouldn’t need to hand-hold every new user. This includes user, topic, and feature discovery.
Sure, we have a lot of work to do there with onboarding, but having a community offering help is also a great way to gain back the humanization of social media that's been lost over the years.
In fact, the community is what makes #Nostr different from Farcaster. I tried Warpcast for a bit, but it never felt as friendly as Nostr and was mostly crypto stuff and air drops and minting NFTs
Farcaster sounds horrible. I'm imagining each user trying to scam the next.
The problem lies in there's more bitcoin community than there is any other community on nostr. Thus it's hard for people to come here and find a relatable community that's not talking about bitcoin too, and that can be pretty repetitive and off putting, especially when just getting started and not understanding on the same level as others around you, when you just wanted some new cooking recipes, etc.
Agree. There's very little here for just one community type. It's mostly Bitcoin with overlap into several others. i.e. loves me some food pics, but I'm also a Bitcoin.
Precisely.
Everyone here is an early adopter. That means that we're willing and happy to take lots of steps to build the best experience possible. Nostr is many things at once (decentralized, censorship resistant, money powered) and we love it but the next wave, the early majority, is not used to having to do lots of things for an app to work. We have a better chance at retaining new users if we introduce each item one at time. No need to have the best algorithm, best relay setup, lightning address, NIP-05, NWC, ... all at once. Just my 2 sats.
The best way to make great friends with a lot to talk about isn’t always to work on entertaining new friends and becoming like them… But it is to consistently do the things you want to do and be the places that you want to be. Then be open to the people that you meet there. You both are there because you want to be. It’s why so many. Nostriches experience “friends at first sight” when they finally meet. There are going to be a lot of different people here. We should be helpful. It’s a matter of time. Let it grow organically.
Having that layer zero foundation helps cement beautiful relationships.
He is just not fed up enough with legacy social media. I think we will see him again.
When trending content stops being about bitcoin, things will get better.
"The algorithms must think for me. I can't bear to."
He need more bitcoin 😅
Mass adoption happens when new users don’t have to ask or learn. This is on the clients. New users give up when they detect no traction on getting what they seek among: content variety, engagement quality, real world value, engagement feedback, realized self-sovereignty, tech ease, clear and useful toolsets. As a user that has onboarded in the last couple months and still has no real world friends that are active here, I think the best thing I have to offer is my tech ux experience. I’ve been asking myself: Who do I talk to that will listen and implement what we come up with? Do I publish my thoughts in a vacuum regardless of potential utilization? I engage with the bleeding edge. I can be patient on the cutting edge. Use case creativity is fun at the edge. Masses adopt honed use case flows. The protocol and relay network is still young for mass scale and the abuses that come with it. Abuse to the system comes with both massive intended use and malicious misuse. Here’s to looking into the fog, with goals, skills and optimism! https://m.primal.net/LoWR.jpg
Early adopters are a different breed. They sense the superiority of some technology and give it a whirl. #Nostr currently is for early adopters #grownostr #plebchain nostr:nevent1qqsqfl2a0zyhfdm4zvxgy83g0ajksa4gjyf4ccky00jq6t9c95xaf6sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqrqsqqqqqpt498nl
I think over time Nostr will evolve to be about many things and the fact it’s powered by Bitcoin will become more secondary but at the same time, the conversation must continue in order to keep building for the future.
It's not really powered by Bitcoin though. That's just a side quest. The two go hand in hand, but Nostr doesn't need bitcoin.
Ahhh I’ve misunderstood slightly but that’s cool, I’m learning and
The fact that you have to study nostr and understand all these different types of relays, and NIPS and learn how set all these things up is a much bigger barrier than most people on here are willing to admit. Huge survivor's bias. When there's an app/website where new users can just open it up and have it walk them through the absolute minimum setup and help with the optional things, when we'll see substancial adoption. No more having to ask for help or get a bunch of unsolicited advice.
You should not have to do this. Nostr is very technical still. Developers know this and they're working on improving UX. It just takes time. Until then, the community has to educate and onboard, IMO.
Man... Nobody welcomed me like that. How'd this guy get the red carpet treatment? I didn't stick until my second attempt (a lot changed in a year here).
Time of day and depends if you were lucky enough for someone to find it and engage with it. Welcome to Nostr 😅
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Hah. Apparently we had similar thoughts. nostr:nevent1qqsqfl2a0zyhfdm4zvxgy83g0ajksa4gjyf4ccky00jq6t9c95xaf6spz3mhxw309akx7cmpd35x7um58g6rsd3e9upzq0mhp4ja8fmy48zuk5p6uy37vtk8tx9dqdwcxm32sy8nsaa8gkeyqvzqqqqqqyj37aqt
Perhaps to combat this as part of the onboarding process we emphasize customization and user control. The ability to choose our own algorithms.
Perhaps to combat this as part of the onboarding process we emphasize customization and user control. The ability to choose our own algorithms.