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 Our embedded node, LSP, and self-custodial lightning addresses are now available for everyone to test.

https://blog.zeusln.com/zeus-v0-8-0-open-beta/ 
 thx to you all Zeus dev 
 Yesssss 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 
 Aight, gonna try this out. Don't necessarily use lightning much, but need a challenger for my Phoenix Wallet setup. 
 realy cool design 😎 
 https://i.postimg.cc/7Z46Smw5/zeus-lightspark.jpg 
 Tell me more... I thought lightspark was a bitcoin tech? 
 Hadn’t heard of lightspark until the head homie David Marcus was on WBD. No offense to David, he lacks the vision of his direct competitors. 
 Just set this up in a couple mins! Mobile non-custodial lightning addresses with @ZEUS ... AWESOME.

Anyone wanna try a small test tx to btcsessions@zeuspay.com ?

https://m.primal.net/HORD.png

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 Sent 🫡 
 Sent it. It works 😁 
 Maybe not 🤔 
 Open the gates of unhosted wallets 🔥😱

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 literally set this up in a moment.

⚡️ embedded node running
⚡️ unique lightning address
⚡️ paired remote node
⚡️ zapped @ZEUS team

lfg #bitcoin & ⚡️ adoption ❤️‍🔥🧡💜 🤙

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 🎯 
 Awesome to see!

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 I want it!!! 😮 
 This is so cool!


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 I’m loving it so far. 
 Awsome! Testing it right now.

Anyone so kind and try if you can zap me?

Thank you! 🤗


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 Excellent  
 I wonder if there will be big fees for this when the on chain fees are big 
 Does it work with Robosats? 
 Yes 
 How well 👀 I've noticed wallets in the past tend to have shaky support.

I think even phoenix wallet can be used to buy, but not so much to sell with. 
 how much is it syncing? the whole bitcoin blocks??

it shows height: 813517

how much the full data which will be downloaded to my iphone? 
 It’s only the block headers. We use Neutrino. 
 Zeus's favor is upon me!
https://m.primal.net/HORx.png 
 “When closing these channels, users are incur less fees and are given more privacy as they appear to like any other Taproot spend when examining their on-chain footprint.”

Not quite correct.

What you should say is thet under normal conditions taproot channels look like to any other taproot spend. That true whether you are opening or closing the channel.

Abnormal conditions, like force closes, do identify the transaction as a lightning channel. 
 Yes, but most people should expect a cooperative close and the distinction here is that there is a difference here between taproot channels and traditional segwit ones.

Segwit will reveal the 2of2 quorum when cooperatively closing the channel. 
 When do you feel production version is released? 
 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥YES!!!!!! 
 -"Lightning Network Died!"
"I don't know how to do anything else. Use my Shitcoin"

*  @ZEUS launches New version so that any pleb can hold Bitcoin LN in self-custody from their cell phone.
⚡🏛️👾


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 Life finds a way. 🐝 
 Can we now receive zaps into a self-custodial wallet? 
 Yes 
 Why is getting connected to the beta via testflight such a f'ing nightmare.  Makes me not want to test anything on the f'ing apple phone. 
 I'm new to nostr will try it 
 🔥🔥🔥 
 Just setup the Zeus app, hope it's correct 
 Can I receive to my handle as via xxxx@zeuspay.com without opening a channel before?
 
 You can get onboarded with a channel thru ZEUS PAY but you must start with a payment of 50k sats or more 
 50 sat fee on 100 sats!! What the hell  
 Freedom isn’t free 
 I made a huge mistake and deleted my node/app thinking it was a restart issue. I guess my username is lost in the void? 
 50% tax, who are you the government 😭 
 Linky to fee schedule? please 
 100 fee sat on 25k sats, too ;) 
 Those fees are outrageous 

https://image.nostr.build/69535d80ddcea7de9600e5f7de8c477bd82340e34b1fb92fac21e753d3fed93f.jpg 
 Someone is getting rich and it's not us. 
 There's always a choice. Build something similar and charge the fees yourself to others and use it for free yourself. Pay the fees to others who have built something and using it would make something more convenient for you. Or don't use it. 
 Thrilled about this. Can you confirm what data the iOS app collects and/or shares with Apple? 
  https://image.nostr.build/6669974d16a3d600eaec7261975341fc685b5d27903b68453d6dc8be81f6a43a.jpg  
 Excellent. Also true of TestFlight I assume?

Btw — incredible app so far 🔥🔥🔥 
 Yep 
 Wooooww 
 Ok .. let's give it a go ..



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#zeus
#selfcustodial
#bitcoin
#lightning 
 Nice new logo too!  
 Is it a test flight beta? 
 Awesome. Installed.  
 Can you use the wallet by itself or does it need a node? 
 The node is in the phone 
 Yeah just saw that thanks 
 I'll rephrase lol..do you need to run the node on the phone in order to use the wallet or can the wallet just be used by itself? 
 It's build in but you don't sync the entire BC, just the headers. Best to try it out. It's pretty amazing ngl, I love the UI aswell 
 Awesome thanks! 
 Developers in this space are absolute beasts! 
 THE NODE IS ON THE PHONE

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 Descargando... 

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 Downloaded on Android. Had some issues while syncing, the counter was stuck several times so I had to relaunch the app. I noticed my Power Mode was on so turned it off and it fixed it. 
 😃 
 Does Zeus have the same fuctionality as Phoenix where the channel size is dynamic? Or do I have to create new channels? 

How do I move on-chain btc to lightning? Can I quickly move funds from one to the other?  
 Phoenix can enable dynamic channel size thanks to their splicing feature developed by ACINQ on LNKMP. Zeus embedded node uses LND as backend & splicing is yet to be developed by LightningLabs. You can open channel to any public nodes. You can also receive LNURL-channel too

I'm not sure Zeus can automatically swap onchain sats to LN sats, you can swap the sats to LN using submarine swap lik boltz tho. Note that you can store sats onchain using Zeus SEPARATELY unlike on Phoenix, 2 layers 1 app 
 No swaps yet. 
 Out of topic but... will i lose my nsec stored (on my Zeus mobile) if i reinstall the app ? 
 Yes, copy it from Nostr keys section first. Hold to copy 
 What are the specific purpose of built-in nostr nsec there ? To receive nostr notif push whenever users receive pending payment to their LN address ? Anything else? 
 You’ll also trigger a force close of your channels on reinstall so consider manually closing your chans first to save on fees and fund recovery time 
 No splicing or swaps yet. But you can open channels to whoever you want. 
 Just in time for this!

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 Zeus bringing non-custodial lightning with lightning addresses to the masses:

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