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 Lightning works pretty well to buy coffees too 
 If you already happen to have a channel around, and the fees are not high. 
 Can confirm. 
 yeah, what is with NVK shitting on LN this last day all about? has he just scored a sponsorship from a chaumian mint project or what? 
 He’s right about it not being an end solution for 8 Billion people. But it could be an end solution for 100 million custodial users. Ultimately we don’t have enough people who even want to use sovereign Bitcoin for me to FUD its scaling. 

One day though, ECash, CTV, and Bitcoin banks will be more of the common standard. 
 Bro, been shitting on lightning over complexity and short comings before Segwit. 
 yeah, so tell me about your opinions about bitcoin's architecture then? 
 He just talked with Preston for an hour on this. 
 he doesn't seem to be very pragmatic about the feasibility of engineering these things

it's all very nice to want something but if it can't be engineered to work that way then i can only conclude that you are living in a dream world